Thread: Questions on Deca and Dianabol

For gyno you can use nolvadex...or Arimidex can be used to prevent it to begin with.

I have doubts that those herbal pills can take the deca from your body.

Deca could be ran 200-600mg per week. A lot of people have done well with 25mg of Dbol so I think your 40mg dose is overkill.

do i take the nolvadex or arimidex while on the cycle or after and i just want to do either deca or dbol...will i still get good results or should i take both?

where is the test in your cycle ? once the dbol clears from your system you can forget about getting a hard on for a while

Originally Posted by Smacthatass2

do i take the nolvadex or arimidex while on the cycle or after and i just want to do either deca or dbol...will i still get good results or should i take both?

Arimidex is taken during the cycle and Nolvadex is taken for PCT after....or can be taken during if you get gyno.

If you are willing to inject deca I suggest you get some testosterone instead...and if you want jump start it with 4 weeks of dbol.

Make sure you plan all this out really well and know exactly what you are doing before doing it. Measure twice cut once ya know?

hmm, you dont need deca yet. Save that for a cycle sometime in the future after you get a couple test cycles under you belt. I like dbol, but you should not run dbol only. You'll gain good while your on it, then lose alot of what you gained when you stop taking it.

Since this is your first cycle run test eth at 500mg /wk by 2-250mg shots a week. Run this for 10 weeks. Then pct. You'll be happy with the results if you train, and eat well I've seen people put on 20 good pounds with this cycle. You can kick start this cycle by taking 25mg of dbol /day for the first 4 weeks. With a dbol kicker you'll see gains in week 2 at the latest. With test alone it takes 4 to 5 weeks before you'll start seeing any gains.

Run nolva for pct. 6oxo isnt going to cut it.

what is test eth

test enanthane right?

Yeah test enanthane. It would be your best bet for a first cycle. With doses between 250mg and 750mg /wk most people see very little if any sides, and recover quickly with pct. Everyone is different though.

It also allows for less injections than some other test products. Test should be the base of every cycle. So start off with test, and see how you like it before you add in other substances. You'll get good gains off of 500mg /week. Test allows almost everyone, within a short time, to build up a lot of strength and mass.

Gyno associated with Deca (progesterone) can not be prevented with Nolva or Armidex.

Yep, nolva will not help deca gyno, armidex might help a little but wolnt stop it.

Originally Posted by deeno

Gyno associated with Deca (progesterone) can not be prevented with Nolva or Armidex.

you need vitex for that right?

what does it mean to recover with pct...take nolvadex after my cycle.....so i take arimidex during or do i just take one or the other after.....i hear dbol converts to estrogen easy what else can I take with eth

Originally Posted by Smacthatass2

what does it mean to recover with pct...take nolvadex after my cycle.....so i take arimidex during or do i just take one or the other after.....i hear dbol converts to estrogen easy what else can I take with eth

Arimidex is taken during the cycle and the Nolva is used after for PCT. I wouldn't stop the Arimidex until a day before you start Nolva for the PCT.

whats something good to run with 500mg of eth a week

you could start the cycle off with 25mg's of dbol ED for the first 4 weeks

You could lower the test and add eq, say 400mg test e and 400mg eq. Im no expert but just an idea

Originally Posted by young d

you need vitex for that right?

B-6 at 600mg ed,dostinex,and bromocriptine....

Originally Posted by pengers84

You could lower the test and add eq, say 400mg test e and 400mg eq. Im no expert but just an idea

thats not enough EQ...

If you want to run something with the test. Run dbol. Run it for 4 weeks. You'll see some gains starting in between a few days and 2 weeks.

To answer your other question "what does it mean to recover durring pct". When your on a cycle and your getting test from somewhere other than your body, your body thinks that it doesnt need to make as much since there is already alot in your blood stream. When you come off of the cycle, your estrogen levels will be high, and test levels will be low. PCT gets your natural test production back to normal, and if your balls srink a little while on cycle, it gets them back to there usual size.

Originally Posted by pengers84

You could lower the test and add eq, say 400mg test e and 400mg eq. Im no expert but just an idea

you'd need to double that eq if you want to see anything from it

Originally Posted by young d

you'd need to double that eq if you want to see anything from it

400mg eq/week should be fine, just up the test to 500mg
400mg/week eq is a fairly standard dose...

Originally Posted by deeno

400mg eq/week should be fine, just up the test to 500mg
400mg/week eq is a fairly standard dose...

fair enough, just a few guys on here said they saw no results till they upped the dose to around 800mg/wk (lam, cocks, mudge etc..)

EQ is very mild so the starting point IMO is 600mg/week.

Originally Posted by young d

fair enough, just a few guys on here said they saw no results till they upped the dose to around 800mg/wk (lam, cocks, mudge etc..)

Yeah... Id take what those three said, as gospel...

Originally Posted by deeno

400mg eq/week should be fine, just up the test to 500mg
400mg/week eq is a fairly standard dose...

EQ overall is quite a mild steroid. It needs to be run long and hard or not at all. At least 600mg's a week for 10 weeks, but 800mg's would be better. For me at 600mg's of EQ a week, the appetite increase seemed to fade in and out, and completely disappear after week 8.

or just run the test at 500, the Deca at 300-600 and the d-bol 30mg ed
there you go a simple sure winner, if you wanna mix in a bunch of stuff.
Why worry about detection times w/ deca, are you in MLB?

or just keep it simple --> Test 500mg each week others will debate, but you could get away with injecting just 2ml one time a week using Test E or Cyp