Igf-1

musclepump · 05-04-2005, 11:21 AM

If I were to pick up a cycle of IGF-1 from IBE, do the "benefits" from one cycle through stick with you or is it something you have to continually recycle to gain from?

**Mudge** · 05-04-2005, 12:38 PM

Are you asking if you keep your gains

musclepump · 05-04-2005, 01:14 PM

Correct. Are they kept only for the time on, or can be kept overall? My main curiosity is stuck to the claim that supplementation of IBE's Oratropin-1 generates new muscle cells; obviously this would only happen when the body is taking in the IGF-1, but do the cells remain maintained after supplementation ends?

LAM · 05-04-2005, 01:41 PM

I can't see one reason as to why you would lose the gains made from IGF-1

**Mudge** · 05-04-2005, 01:41 PM

Yes, if a muscle cell dies it gets replaced. Gains kept have to do with diet, training and hormones. If you can support the gains you can keep them.

musclepump · 05-04-2005, 02:05 PM

Cool. I didn't know what the needs were to support additional muscle cells; I had thought maybe to support extra cells, you needed that extra IGF-1 in the body.

**Pirate!** · 05-05-2005, 09:49 AM

I've been waiting to see what the feedback on this is like. Does anyone have links to reviews on IBE's Oratropin-1?

**Mudge** · 05-05-2005, 01:20 PM

Google will pull some stuff up, Ology people seem to like it except for Ifrit "The Immune One" who doesn't seem to respond to anything.

Honestly though I think I'd rather do the injectable, its a little less expensive (even though they overdosed on the Oratropin slightly because of their loading machines error), you dont have to wait an hour to eat while you are starving and you can drink your water and not sit there with cotton mouth for an hour. Why bother honestly.

Plus if you buy into the site injection growth, you wont get that unless you were hoping for a big tongue or something. But hey, chicks dig it right?

**DOMS** · 05-05-2005, 01:27 PM

Perhaps I've missed something...

You can buy IGF-1? Online?

I was just reading (it's speculated) that IGF-1 is the primary reason for increased hypertrophy when taking HGH. Is there any truth to this?

musclepump · 05-05-2005, 01:33 PM

Taking HGH results in higher IGF-1 levels, so it's kind of passing up the first step

**DOMS** · 05-05-2005, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by musclepump

Taking HGH results in higher IGF-1 levels, so it's kind of passing up the first step

That was my point. If IGF-1 does most (if not all) of the work of HGH, then why pay more for HGH? Can someone provide a link to purchasing IGF-1 online? Thanks.

Tha Don · 05-05-2005, 02:03 PM

so is anyone gonna try this?

Tha Don · 05-05-2005, 02:23 PM

so IGF-1 is basically oral HGH?

musclepump · 05-05-2005, 02:25 PM

I'm assuming it's all in the same league, so... don't ask for sources.

**DOMS** · 05-05-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by musclepump

I'm assuming it's all in the same league, so... don't ask for sources.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought that you had indicated that the sale of IGF-1 was legal.

musclepump · 05-05-2005, 02:37 PM

Well, it isn't like gear exactly, but... eh...

Stu · 05-05-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by young d

so IGF-1 is basically oral HGH?

All HGH whether oral or injectable converts into IGF-1in the body

Its pretty easy to find legitamate sources on line but this stuff is NOT cheap.

try googling "Jintropin"

Tha Don · 05-05-2005, 03:27 PM

well i know about HGH, that dosen't really interest me personally though, i was just wondering about IGF-1... steroids still seem superior for muscle building from what i've read

**Pirate!** · 05-05-2005, 03:59 PM

I've read a few reviews, and it seems many, but not all, are happy with the results. I think the inject seems much preferable to me.

redspy · 05-05-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by musclepump

I'm assuming it's all in the same league, so... don't ask for sources.

IGF-1 isn't scheduled. It's sold a research chem by some online stores.

**DOMS** · 05-05-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I've read a few reviews, and it seems many, but not all, are happy with the results. I think the inject seems much preferable to me.

As I understand it, the reason has to do with timing. Something about the ebb and flow of the body's natural IGF-1 levels and timing the injections to match the natural flows.

**DOMS** · 05-05-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by redspy

IGF-1 isn't scheduled. It's sold a research chem by some online stores.

This is great news...errr...for my rat...

musclepump · 05-05-2005, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redspy

IGF-1 isn't scheduled. It's sold a research chem by some online stores.

Thanks Red... I just like to be extra careful

milwood · 05-05-2005, 05:14 PM

I don't see many people reporting much from Oratropin. I don't see IBE really reaching out to promote it, and since it has been out a while now, I'd think if it WERE all that, someone would be saying it, and word would be out. I also don't think it has ever been explained how (suddenly) igf-1 is now orally effective, whereas it has never been possible before. Anyone have any good news???

Tha Don · 05-05-2005, 05:15 PM

so is anyone planning on trying it?.. MP?

Tough Old Man · 05-05-2005, 05:49 PM

You can buy it at IBE. I'm on my 5th day of it along With Test E and EQ. let you know in 30 days. Expensive shit. 30 days cost 260 plus shipping

musclepump · 05-05-2005, 06:10 PM

damn! but heck yeah, keep us informed!

**Mudge** · 05-05-2005, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfs3

That was my point. If IGF-1 does most (if not all) of the work of HGH, then why pay more for HGH? Can someone provide a link to purchasing IGF-1 online? Thanks.

Its still not hGH, it does not offer all the benfits and you can't really run it longer than 25-50 days without it losing its effect. One of the things hGH does is tell the liver to pump out more IGF-1.

LR3 IGF-1 is a trademarked product, so its not exactly legal to sell since its copyright infringement. In fact some companies selling it were named in a mass suit awhile back, companies selling it either renamed their product or stopped selling it altogether.

Regular IGF-1 is too short acting to be used for our purposes.

In the future IBE said they may be able to drop the twin kit pricing down to $200. I'm going injectable in a few weeks, at least thats the plan. 20 days, 50mcg.

Tough Old Man · 05-05-2005, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudge

Its still not hGH, it does not offer all the benfits and you can't really run it longer than 25-50 days without it losing its effect. One of the things hGH d

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05-04-2005, 01:14 PM	#3
musclepump Celebrity PersonalTrainer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,663 Photos: 128	Correct. Are they kept only for the time on, or can be kept overall? My main curiosity is stuck to the claim that supplementation of IBE's Oratropin-1 generates new muscle cells; obviously this would only happen when the body is taking in the IGF-1, but do the cells remain maintained after supplementation ends?
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05-04-2005, 01:41 PM	#4
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	I can't see one reason as to why you would lose the gains made from IGF-1
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05-04-2005, 01:41 PM	#5
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,948 Photos: 1	Yes, if a muscle cell dies it gets replaced. Gains kept have to do with diet, training and hormones. If you can support the gains you can keep them.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

05-04-2005, 02:05 PM	#6
musclepump Celebrity PersonalTrainer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,663 Photos: 128	Cool. I didn't know what the needs were to support additional muscle cells; I had thought maybe to support extra cells, you needed that extra IGF-1 in the body.
	Let's all join together and SPEAK ENGLISH IN AMERICA.

05-05-2005, 09:49 AM	#7
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,683	I've been waiting to see what the feedback on this is like. Does anyone have links to reviews on IBE's Oratropin-1?

05-05-2005, 01:20 PM	#8
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,948 Photos: 1	Google will pull some stuff up, Ology people seem to like it except for Ifrit "The Immune One" who doesn't seem to respond to anything. Honestly though I think I'd rather do the injectable, its a little less expensive (even though they overdosed on the Oratropin slightly because of their loading machines error), you dont have to wait an hour to eat while you are starving and you can drink your water and not sit there with cotton mouth for an hour. Why bother honestly. Plus if you buy into the site injection growth, you wont get that unless you were hoping for a big tongue or something. But hey, chicks dig it right?
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

05-05-2005, 01:33 PM	#10
musclepump Celebrity PersonalTrainer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,663 Photos: 128	Taking HGH results in higher IGF-1 levels, so it's kind of passing up the first step
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05-05-2005, 02:03 PM	#12
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	so is anyone gonna try this?

05-05-2005, 02:23 PM	#13
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	so IGF-1 is basically oral HGH?

05-05-2005, 02:25 PM	#14
musclepump Celebrity PersonalTrainer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,663 Photos: 128	I'm assuming it's all in the same league, so... don't ask for sources.
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05-05-2005, 02:37 PM	#16
musclepump Celebrity PersonalTrainer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,663 Photos: 128	Well, it isn't like gear exactly, but... eh...
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05-05-2005, 03:27 PM	#18
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	well i know about HGH, that dosen't really interest me personally though, i was just wondering about IGF-1... steroids still seem superior for muscle building from what i've read

05-05-2005, 03:59 PM	#19
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,683	I've read a few reviews, and it seems many, but not all, are happy with the results. I think the inject seems much preferable to me.

05-05-2005, 05:14 PM	#24
milwood Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 114	I don't see many people reporting much from Oratropin. I don't see IBE really reaching out to promote it, and since it has been out a while now, I'd think if it WERE all that, someone would be saying it, and word would be out. I also don't think it has ever been explained how (suddenly) igf-1 is now orally effective, whereas it has never been possible before. Anyone have any good news???
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05-05-2005, 05:15 PM	#25
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	so is anyone planning on trying it?.. MP?

05-05-2005, 05:49 PM	#26
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	You can buy it at IBE. I'm on my 5th day of it along With Test E and EQ. let you know in 30 days. Expensive shit. 30 days cost 260 plus shipping

05-05-2005, 06:10 PM	#27
musclepump Celebrity PersonalTrainer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,663 Photos: 128	damn! but heck yeah, keep us informed!
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