High Natty Test

**Pirate!** · 05-05-2005, 04:31 PM

I decided to get my hormone levels checked for the first time. I'm almost 29, and I have a lot of anxiety and aggression. Additionally, my dad has been on HRT for decades, so I wanted to see if I was coming up short, too. I've only run one cycle of testosterone, and I finished that in February. Anyway, the results of my blood work came in, and everything is normal but this: My testosterone is One-Thousand something. I'll pick up the report tomorrow and get the exact number, but the doctor and I both thought this to be abnormally high. I ran sustanon, but I don't see how I could still have enough in my system to have over 1000 test. Anyone have any insight to this anomaly?

It has been about 12 weeks since my last shot, and I definitely had lower test duing pct.

Tha Don · 05-05-2005, 05:17 PM

wow what did you run PCT? what else have you been taking?

**Pirate!** · 05-05-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by young d

wow what did you run PCT? what else have you been taking?

Of course I ran pct, young d. I'm not taking anything hormonal. Just regular stuff like vitamins, fish oil, ALCAR, CEE...I was taking Lean Xtreme for a few weeks, but quit because my libido was shot. Libido is fine now, and it may just be stress that caused the libido issue in the first place. Anyway, nothing I am taking should raise my lest levels at all--except proper diet, exercise, and sleep.

Tha Don · 05-05-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Of course I ran pct, young d. I'm not taking anything hormonal. Just regular stuff like vitamins, fish oil, ALCAR, CEE...I was taking Lean Xtreme for a few weeks, but quit because my libido was shot. Libido is fine now, and it may just be stress that caused the libido issue in the first place. Anyway, nothing I am taking should raise my lest levels at all--except proper diet, exercise, and sleep.

i meant 'what' did you run PCT? as in what drugs/supps?

musclepump · 05-05-2005, 06:09 PM

Damn. I wish my doc would do these tests for me!

**Pirate!** · 05-05-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by young d

i meant 'what' did you run PCT? as in what drugs/supps?

I ran hcg on cycle on nolva for 4 weeks post cycle.

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Damn. I wish my doc would do these tests for me!

I told the doc about HRT being in my family history and that I felt like my test might be low because of lack of libido and mild depression/lethargy.

musclepump · 05-05-2005, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I told the doc about HRT being in my family history and that I felt like my test might be low because of lack of libido and mild depression/lethargy.

Did you tell him that, albeit a little high, you need more and he should prescribe you some HRT?

**Pirate!** · 05-05-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by musclepump

Did you tell him that, albeit a little high, you need more and he should prescribe you some HRT?

She refered me to a doctor that I am supposed to see about it. I just wish I knew if this is my base line level or if I somehow have that much test in my system from 3 months ago.

musclepump · 05-05-2005, 06:49 PM

Does your insurance cover this? If my test was naturally high I'd say "Damn right!" and go with it. Wouldn't waste time with more doctors, that's for sure.

**Pirate!** · 05-05-2005, 07:10 PM

I certainly don't have any plans for treatment to reduce my test. My insurance should cover 20%. I don't know for sure yet.

LW83 · 05-05-2005, 07:33 PM

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**Pirate!** · 05-05-2005, 07:38 PM

The ironic thing is that I actually took AMRX after my pct, but that was months ago.

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musclepump · 05-05-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I certainly don't have any plans for treatment to reduce my test. My insurance should cover 20%. I don't know for sure yet.

How much do the tests costs?

**Pirate!** · 05-05-2005, 08:46 PM

I believe somewhere between $200-$300. I decided that I wanted it done once whether I have to pay or not. I thought my test would be low since I am only a few months out of a cycle. Given my energy, oilly skin/zits, irritability, euphoria, rapid hair loss, aggession and being very emotional (usually angry) having elevated test makes much more sense. At this point, it seems to be some sort of rebound effect comming months after pct. But, I don't know if such a thing is possible. I guess I can't complain. All other tests (LH, FSH, TSH, Glucose, lipids, liver etc) were great.

Tha Don · 05-06-2005, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LW83

It's that damn Anabolic Matrix

That bastard. All you have to do is type Anabolic Matrix and it links you to it

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Tha Don · 05-06-2005, 06:58 AM

Tha Don · 05-06-2005, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I believe somewhere between $200-$300. I decided that I wanted it done once whether I have to pay or not. I thought my test would be low since I am only a few months out of a cycle. Given my energy, oilly skin/zits, irritability, euphoria, rapid hair loss, aggession and being very emotional (usually angry) having elevated test makes much more sense. At this point, it seems to be some sort of rebound effect comming months after pct. But, I don't know if such a thing is possible. I guess I can't complain. All other tests (LH, FSH, TSH, Glucose, lipids, liver etc) were great.

well that is good news, and you cycle was test/deca/dbol right? hopefully i will recover as well as you have!

rrgg · 05-06-2005, 07:57 AM

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The ironic thing is that I actually took AMRX after my pct, but that was months ago.

Was it really "months ago?" I don't know the date of your blood test, but you took hcg/sust in Feb, then nolva for 4 weeks in March, then anabolic matrix presumably in April (for how long)?

Can you really have 1000 test an no libido?

**Mudge** · 05-06-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

The ironic thing is that I actually took AMRX after my pct, but that was months ago.

If your last shot was 12 weeks ago, just how short was this PCT and how soon did you start after your last shot?

Yes, PCT will boost your numbers, which is why blood tests to check for T/E and free T should be done long after PCT, making the whole event rather lame.

**Pirate!** · 05-06-2005, 09:33 AM

Looking at my calender for better accuracy...My last shot of Sustanon was 2/11 and I ran nolva until the end of March. Then I took AMRX for about the first 2 weeks of April (I don't consider this significant). Bloodwork was taken on 5/3. I suck at math, but I figure that is approximately 80 days since my last shot of sustanon and about 33 days since my last dose of nolva.

Mudge, are you saying this elevated value is due to PCT (nolva)? Can a SERM raise your values that much? I've been done with pct since march, and I expected to still be recovering and therefore have low test.

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Can you really have 1000 test an no libido?

I had libido/ED issues off and on while running 250 mg sustanon E3D. There are other hormones that have a significant effect on libido.

**Pirate!** · 05-06-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

If your last shot was 12 weeks ago, just how short was this PCT and how soon did you start after your last shot?

I ran some nolva after my last shot because I was still running hcg and having some gyno issues so there isn't a clear point at which my pct began, but I generally supposed 15-18 days after the last inject to be the beginning of pct, making the pct about 5 weeks (2/26 --> 3/31).

Mags · 05-06-2005, 10:50 AM

I thought some AS's could stay in the blood for months, if not a year etc "Deca also dramatically improves nitrogen retention and recuperation time between workouts. Deca has shown up positive on more steroid tests than any other steroid. This is due to the fact that so many athletes use it, and that it stays in the system at a detectable level for up to a year."- www.steroidtips.com . Running HCG afterwards may have elevated the already high exogenous levels left in your body with dramatic boosting of your own natural test produced from the HCG stimulation.

**Mudge** · 05-06-2005, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Mudge, are you saying this elevated value is due to PCT (nolva)? Can a SERM raise your values that much? I've been done with pct since march, and I expected to still be recovering and therefore have low test.

1000ish is not that much compared to being on juice where you were probably 2500+.

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Originally Posted by Mags

I thought some AS's could stay in the blood for months

Metabolite detection yes, not hormonally speaking.

Ryan-Boro · 05-11-2005, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by musclepump

Damn. I wish my doc would do these tests for me!

they wont do it for us in the UK unless we go private,n it wud cost a shit load.they font got a NHS in america lol.

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