Ryan-Boro

so wots the deal with ephedrine?does it actually burn fat of you/get u ripped or just give you a lot more energy?

Cardinal

Its thermogenic. The figure I saw was 3% of BMR for ephedrine and 7% for clenbuterol. Do the math and you will see it doesn't quite work magic. You'll still need to be dieting pretty seriously if you want to see great fat loss with it. Sure is a good aid though. Biggest advantage to it in terms of weight loss imo is that it is a rather good appetite suppressant.

I get a heck of a lot more energy from it. Love the stuff for that. That makes me want to move around more and be active which will really help with fat burning. Definitely, it improves my mental focus.

Common negative side effects are Benign Prostate Hypertrophy, anxiety. Not to be used if you have a heart condition etc. Also causes me some insomnia. Half life is something like 6-7 hours. Best not to take after 4 p.m. to start with (see how you react).

Mudge

Expect more in the way of energy than fat burning. Its not as effective as DNP, T3/Clen or something along those lines.

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Ryan-Boro

i cant get hold of DNP, T3/Clen, lets jus say my supplier has gon on a long vacation lol.ephedrine is all i can get,i think ill run 3 tabs per day,and really cut down on the carbs,need to get ripped for july wen i go on vacation

Cardinal

Clen and T3 are research chems. DNP is not at all (tougher to find). Unless you live in a country where you couldn't possibly get research chems from one of the many online suppliers that service the US+, you shouldn't have a problem finding Clen/T3 these days.

Cutting calories and running 75mg E HCl will sure help also. Best of luck. My personal preference would be to use E HCl alone or E HCl + T3 + some kind of AAS cutter.

Mudge

Unless you are outside of the United States, and even then, clen/T3 are piss easy to get.

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Stu

having used both eca and T3, im liking T3 much more at the minute at 50mcg/day

Stu

DNPs not to hard to find in the UK, i got my T3 from IBE but its not too hard to get the tabs as well

TrojanMan60563

you can order t3/clen from most mexican pharmacy...customs is not going to mess with you for that stuff.

kraziplaya

the first year i took an eca stack(xenadrine) i lost a lot of weight and fat...the reason why was because it reduced my appetite severly and gave me energy to do a lot lot of cardio...i would never go that route again because i didnt make muscle gains....however i do use the eca stack for energy preworkout and i like it a lot...even addicting..but ive built such a tolerance that it just doesnt do what it used to do..i will prob try t3 someday

SJ69

Stu - do you like the IBE stuff? It's so much cheaper than some of the other research co's. Gotta love those prices, and they have a sale going on now.

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Ryan-Boro

did any of you guys who used eph take it with caffeine?like a strong coffee or tea?ive read in several articles that it is supposed to boost the effects of it.i know it badly supresses the appetite,a friend of mine is on 3 pills per day,hes lost 1.5stones in 3weeks.ill just have to drink more protein shakes if i dnt have the appetite to eat

Stu

yeah it took a while to kick in but i can definately feel it now, weight is staying about the same, maybe a few pounds down but im running 25mg M1t so i know im still holding a fair amount of water.

my slightly over weight mate is using it in conjunction with an atkins style diet and you can really see the difference on him.