Anabolics or Whey and Creatine??

**radradioman** · 05-31-2005, 05:21 AM

It seems to me that anabolics will give you fast mass gains. How about Nitrotech and Creatine (or any of those over the counter products you can pretty much get at any GNC) in comparison? Are the over the counter products just a waste of time and money or will they actually give me some pretty good gains. In price comparison, it seems that the protein products and creatine is expensive considering how you gotta buy like a tub a week. Some "protein and creatine" products promise excellent gains in 6 to 8 weeks. Not far different from the roids. Yes? What is the better buy? And which is safer on your liver and estrogen production?

Ultimately I need a anabolic (legal) steroid that has the lowest in estrogen production, not so toxic on the liver, and the least affect on blood pressure. What is the best/safest mass gainer roid I can use and the best/safest cutting phase product i can use?? Thanks!

**Stu** · 05-31-2005, 06:00 AM

legal anabolic steroids do not exist

**Arrhar!!** · 05-31-2005, 06:07 AM

if they are legal they wouldn't be called AAS, so no such thing as legal anabolic steroids

Some "protein and creatine" products promise excellent gains in 6 to 8 weeks. Not far different from the roids. Yes?

ha!! not even close

just get yourself some whey.

**Tha Don** · 05-31-2005, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by radradioman

Some "protein and creatine" products promise excellent gains in 6 to 8 weeks. Not far different from the roids. Yes?

errr.... nah

don't fall for all that marketing bullshit, whey and creatine are both good nutrition supps and will help, but NOTHING comes close to steroids

**TrojanMan60563** · 05-31-2005, 07:14 AM

RadioMan I would not ditch the whey/creatine to take steroids. You need to consume protein either way. I am not a huge fan of creatine, but it does help with some people.(maybe those that do not get enough from food)

If you are going to do steroids you should not be dumping the nutritional supplements when doing so is what I am trying to say.

All steroids have risk involved. Some more then others. Rule of thumb in most cases is the more risk involved in taking it the more drastic the results are.

**19-chief** · 05-31-2005, 07:36 AM

just keep lifting hard and try to consume 1000 cal above maintainance. i bet you'll grow. do that for the next 6-7 years. then, maybe, come back to the idea of anabolics.

**musclepump** · 05-31-2005, 08:07 AM

Nothing legal in the US. Move to Turkey.

**19-chief** · 05-31-2005, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by musclepump

Nothing legal in the US. Move to Turkey.

**Pirate!** · 05-31-2005, 08:50 AM

Just don't get in a rush to get huge and buy some so-called "steroids" from a website. You should do plenty of research first, as there are many risks involved. Even if you decide you want to try steroids some day, don't ditch the protein! Learn more about how to eat to grow.

**LAM** · 05-31-2005, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by radradioman

It seems to me that anabolics will give you fast mass gains. How about Nitrotech and Creatine (or any of those over the counter products you can pretty much get at any GNC) in comparison? Are the over the counter products just a waste of time and money or will they actually give me some pretty good gains. In price comparison, it seems that the protein products and creatine is expensive considering how you gotta buy like a tub a week. Some "protein and creatine" products promise excellent gains in 6 to 8 weeks. Not far different from the roids. Yes? What is the better buy? And which is safer on your liver and estrogen production?

Ultimately I need a anabolic (legal) steroid that has the lowest in estrogen production, not so toxic on the liver, and the least affect on blood pressure. What is the best/safest mass gainer roid I can use and the best/safest cutting phase product i can use?? Thanks!

the fact that you would even compare anabolics to whey & creatine means that your are many years away from needing them. you need to do some research on basic nutrition and OTC supplementation for this sport

**Flex** · 05-31-2005, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by LAM

the fact that you would even compare anabolics to whey & creatine means that your are many years away from needing them. you need to do some research on basic nutrition and OTC supplementation for this sport

exactly.

good thing you didn't say your age and we were able to help you, cuz if you said you're under 18 you'd be banned from posting here.

**kraziplaya** · 05-31-2005, 02:49 PM

someone once said that legal supplements are like riding a bike...and steroids are like driving a ferrari... i guess ph's could be considred a hyundai

**gr81** · 06-01-2005, 01:23 AM

if they are legal they wouldn't be called AAS, so no such thing as legal anabolic steroids

thats ridiculous, yes they would. Anabolic Androgenic Steroids is the acronym, what does that have to do with the legal status. yes you are correct, thanks to Bush there are no legal anabolic substances at all. And steroids and protien/creatine is a foolish misguided comparison, its apples and oranges bro. time to read up

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