MY GH & AAS stack

tk... · 07-12-2005, 12:11 AM

Whats up IM members!
Here i go:

GH: fitropin 3 iu's ED for 6 months
Deca Durabolin: 400 mg a week
DBol: 30 mg a week (injectable)
Proviron: 50 mg a week ( injectable in ethyl oleate)
12 week continues cycle for all.

nolvadex during PCT and HCG half way during the cycle will also be used. What do u guys think?

Am not a fan of test. I do not beleive that test should undoubtedly be the base for all cycles. For me personally, my body is very sensitive to highly androgenic compounds-lots of pimples and hair loss. For such reasons i kept the dbol dosage very low, and also decidded to use proviron to reduce some of its effects while keeping libido high.

The only problem i can find is the lenght of my cycle. My GH is for 6 months, whereas my AAS stack will last for 3. 4 months including PCT. That would give me 2 months of only using GH, is this fine? Or should i be cycling for 4-5 months?

**Mudge** · 07-12-2005, 12:42 AM

You can run GH for the rest of your life if you wanted.

LAM · 07-12-2005, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk...

Whats up IM members!
Here i go:

GH: fitropin 3 iu's ED for 6 months
Deca Durabolin: 400 mg a week
DBol: 30 mg a week (injectable)
Proviron: 50 mg a week ( injectable in ethyl oleate)
12 week continues cycle for all.

nolvadex during PCT and HCG half way during the cycle will also be used. What do u guys think?

Am not a fan of test. I do not beleive that test should undoubtedly be the base for all cycles. For me personally, my body is very sensitive to highly androgenic compounds-lots of pimples and hair loss. For such reasons i kept the dbol dosage very low, and also decidded to use proviron to reduce some of its effects while keeping libido high.

The only problem i can find is the lenght of my cycle. My GH is for 6 months, whereas my AAS stack will last for 3. 4 months including PCT. That would give me 2 months of only using GH, is this fine? Or should i be cycling for 4-5 months?

how long you run the GH is totally independent of the AAS cycle. I would start off at 1 iu/ED not 3 using 5 on and 2 off. bf will greatly effect GH as estrogen blocks GH signaling. so the fatter you are the more GH you will need to see the desired effects.

IMO, test isn't high androgenic especially when compared to tren, halo, masteron, etc. personally I wouldn't enjoy the bloat from a dbol and deca cycle

tk... · 07-12-2005, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

personally I wouldn't enjoy the bloat from a dbol and deca cycle

test is not any better, thats for sure. Either way, this is why I included some proviron.

has anybody done a dbol/deca/proviron cycle?

TJ Cline · 07-12-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tk...

test is not any better, thats for sure. Either way, this is why I included some proviron.

has anybody done a dbol/deca/proviron cycle?

I did a 800mg weekly deca cycle for 8 weeks, the first 5 weeks with 30mg Dbol and proviron through the entire cycle.

**Pirate!** · 07-12-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tk...

has anybody done a dbol/deca/proviron cycle?

Yes, I'm doing one now, but I use test prop, too. I found that nandralone (NPP) and dbol without the test was not sufficient. I take 25 mg proviron twice daily. You only plan to take 50 mg proviron a week?

tk... · 07-13-2005, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I did a 800mg weekly deca cycle for 8 weeks, the first 5 weeks with 30mg Dbol and proviron through the entire cycle.

and the end result?

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Yes, I'm doing one now, but I use test prop, too. I found that nandralone (NPP) and dbol without the test was not sufficient. I take 25 mg proviron twice daily. You only plan to take 50 mg proviron a week?

both the dbol and proviron are injectable and are thus significantly more potent that pills. The dosage is more then enough for me. Am just wondering why exactly you thought that deca/dbol/proviron was not enough. When during your cycle did u notice lag and during what week did u start the test? maybe your proviron dosage was too high.

TJ Cline · 07-13-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tk...

and the end result?

both the dbol and proviron are injectable and are thus significantly more potent that pills. The dosage is more then enough for me. Am just wondering why exactly you thought that deca/dbol/proviron was not enough. When during your cycle did u notice lag and during what week did u start the test? maybe your proviron dosage was too high.

I cant say it was my most productive cycle for size and strength, but it was ok and I experienced no side effects at all....and the Deca dick myth or truth??? never had a problem with that on this cycle or any other..I think the problem some people have with a deca based cycle is due to running it too long or just they have a tendency toward that problem genetically.

tk... · 07-13-2005, 06:33 PM

i will start off with dbol/deca/proviron. if i notice any lag i will add some prop to the mix- but i doubt this will be the case.

As far as the injectable dbol and proviron, some gym members have told to only front load with dbol for 5-6 weeks and then drop it; as well as only using proviron at the middle till the end of my cycle......I quiclky responded that this is only true for pills as liver issues might be a problem with dbol.

What do u guys think, should i or should i not run inj. dbol/proviron for 12 weeks straight?

LAM · 07-13-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tk...

What do u guys think, should i or should i not run inj. dbol/proviron for 12 weeks straight?

proviron isn't hepatoxic

tk... · 07-13-2005, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

proviron isn't hepatoxic

i knew that, i was mostly refering to the dbol inj. Typo on my part.

LAM · 07-13-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tk...

i knew that, i was mostly refering to the dbol inj. Typo on my part.

inj dbol is still 17aa. so you would not want to use for more than 6 weeks maximum

TJ Cline · 07-13-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

inj dbol is still 17aa. so you would not want to use for more than 6 weeks maximum

Hey Lam, how long can you use Tren, I was told no more than 6 weeks??? it that true.Plus you were talking about a steroid that could be used instead of test on a deca or EQ cycle.....one that wont cause gyno.

tk... · 07-13-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

inj dbol is still 17aa. so you would not want to use for more than 6 weeks maximum

really!!!??!!, even if i bypass the liver by injecting. Wow, u just taught me something new.

LAM · 07-13-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Hey Lam, how long can you use Tren, I was told no more than 6 weeks??? it that true.Plus you were talking about a steroid that could be used instead of test on a deca or EQ cycle.....one that wont cause gyno.

tren is very suppresive in some people kind of like the effects that people suffer from deca. I would always use HCG during the entire cycle with tren. I've used it for 10 weeks with no problems, many say 1st time users should start at 8.

you can use masteron in place of test. since it doesn't aromatize you won't get the bloating associated with test use and you get the benefits of it being a fairly heavy androgen.

my next cycyle will be either deca(NPP)/masteron or eq/masteron..

TJ Cline · 07-13-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

tren is very suppresive in some people kind of like the effects that people suffer from deca. I would always use HCG during the entire cycle with tren. I've used it for 10 weeks with no problems, many say 1st time users should start at 8.

you can use masteron in place of test. since it doesn't aromatize you won't get the bloating associated with test use and you get the benefits of it being a fairly heavy androgen.

my next cycyle will be either deca(NPP)/masteron or eq/masteron..

Thanks....I'm one cycle away from noticeable gyno, so I cant really use test .

LAM · 07-13-2005, 07:28 PM

you may want to try some Andractim, it's a topical DHT compound. have heard lots of good things about it in regards to reducing gyno from AAS use.

TJ Cline · 07-13-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

you may want to try some Andractim, it's a topical DHT compound. have heard lots of good things about it in regards to reducing gyno from AAS use.

I'll try it, anything to avoid the dreaded surgery.

19-chief · 07-13-2005, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

tren is very suppresive in some people kind of like the effects that people suffer from deca. I would always use HCG during the entire cycle with tren. I've used it for 10 weeks with no problems, many say 1st time users should start at 8.

you can use masteron in place of test. since it doesn't aromatize you won't get the bloating associated with test use and you get the benefits of it being a fairly heavy androgen.

my next cycyle will be either deca(NPP)/masteron or eq/masteron..

hey LAM, have my questions about drostanolone got you thinking about running some???

btw, what kind of effect do you think you'd get from a cycle like that?

**Pirate!** · 07-13-2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tk...

Am just wondering why exactly you thought that deca/dbol/proviron was not enough. When during your cycle did u notice lag and during what week did u start the test? maybe your proviron dosage was too high.

It is hard to explain, but I just didn't find it to be anabolic enough--even though the dbol keeps you looking pumped all the time. What I don't understand about your proviron dosing is that you plan to use it once a week, as opposed to daily. The issue with the dbol is that you can't spread the dosage out evenly throughout the day like you can with the oral version. Watch out for gyno on this cycle, and possible blood pressure spikes soon after injecting the 30 mg dbol.

LAM · 07-13-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 19-chief

hey LAM, have my questions about drostanolone got you thinking about running some???

btw, what kind of effect do you think you'd get from a cycle like that?

I actually just got done running some enanthate/masteron/EQ. I'm on week 2 of my PCT. I wish I had left out the test, didn't realize how much water I was holding.

tk... · 07-13-2005, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

It is hard to explain, but I just didn't find it to be anabolic enough--even though the dbol keeps you looking pumped all the time. What I don't understand about your proviron dosing is that you plan to use it once a week, as opposed to daily. The issue with the dbol is that you can't spread the dosage out evenly throughout the day like you can with the oral version. Watch out for gyno on this cycle, and possible blood pressure spikes soon after injecting the 30 mg dbol.

my proviron injections are daily.

tk... · 07-13-2005, 10:56 PM

so, the general verdict is that my cycle is not all that great...

any other users who have had similar inputs?

Piratefromhell: did the addition of prop into the mix make a significant difference?

musclepump · 07-14-2005, 01:22 PM

I'd run some GH but I can't afford it :\

19-chief · 07-17-2005, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAM

I actually just got done running some enanthate/masteron/EQ. I'm on week 2 of my PCT. I wish I had left out the test, didn't realize how much water I was holding.

leave out the test? would the masteron have served well enough as the androgenic base for such a cycle?

SJ69 · 07-17-2005, 10:33 AM

How much Masteron is recommended, if I didn't have nipple problems my next bulker would be 750mg Test and 600mg EQ, with a prop kick start. Mastreron is a little more $$, and that could be a problem. How about something like --->
300mg Masteron
600mg eq
200mg Test
for a low estrogen cycle?

19-chief · 07-17-2005, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJ69

How much Masteron is recommended, if I didn't have nipple problems my next bulker would be 750mg Test and 600mg EQ, with a prop kick start. Mastreron is a little more $$, and that could be a problem. How about something like --->
300mg Masteron
600mg eq
200mg Test
for a low estrogen cycle?

hell, i was having thoughts of an EQ/Masteron cutter. (maybe 600mg EQ for 12 weeks and add 50-75mg Masteron EOD for the last 6 weeks.) i have to admit, EQ made me hungry as hell at 8 weeks last time! it might make it tough to cut on it.

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tk... Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 118	MY GH & AAS stack Whats up IM members! Here i go: GH: fitropin 3 iu's ED for 6 months Deca Durabolin: 400 mg a week DBol: 30 mg a week (injectable) Proviron: 50 mg a week ( injectable in ethyl oleate) 12 week continues cycle for all. nolvadex during PCT and HCG half way during the cycle will also be used. What do u guys think? Am not a fan of test. I do not beleive that test should undoubtedly be the base for all cycles. For me personally, my body is very sensitive to highly androgenic compounds-lots of pimples and hair loss. For such reasons i kept the dbol dosage very low, and also decidded to use proviron to reduce some of its effects while keeping libido high. The only problem i can find is the lenght of my cycle. My GH is for 6 months, whereas my AAS stack will last for 3. 4 months including PCT. That would give me 2 months of only using GH, is this fine? Or should i be cycling for 4-5 months?
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tk... Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 118	i will start off with dbol/deca/proviron. if i notice any lag i will add some prop to the mix- but i doubt this will be the case. As far as the injectable dbol and proviron, some gym members have told to only front load with dbol for 5-6 weeks and then drop it; as well as only using proviron at the middle till the end of my cycle......I quiclky responded that this is only true for pills as liver issues might be a problem with dbol. What do u guys think, should i or should i not run inj. dbol/proviron for 12 weeks straight?
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