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Old 07-12-2005, 10:38 AM   #1
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Hi guys, I would like to know what you think of this cycle and please do be honest, I need pro advice !! I have be training for about 4 years I weight 180 and measure 5"8 about 15% body fat....This is not my first cycle...
I have 1 bottle of D-Bol ( 100/10mg Tabs)... that I am running 4 times a day with meals and milk thistle...
I am also running deca-durabolin, but this is my problem, the guy who made my cycle told me to start at 1cc every week for for 3 weeks then 2 cc for 3 weeks also, and then cut down to 05. cc for the last 2 weeks.
I will be running arimidex for my post cycle...
Please I need info asap all other reasearch is contradictory...
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:59 AM   #2
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First off, Arimidex is not used for post cycle, but it is used on cycle to control estrogen levels, especially with heavily aromatizing anabolics such as dbol and deca. You need an estrogen blocker, such as Nolvadex(Tamoxifen Citrate) or Clomid(Clomiphen Citrate) for your post cycle. I don't know much about the doses of deca, but I know for sure that you never want to run deca alone...and I hope that you aren't running dbol for the entire cycle. You should only run it for 4 weeks, 5 at most. Your dose it high, too. I would say that 30mg/day would be enough. You still need to take it 4 times a day, but you should lower the dose on that.

I think you have been given completely wrong info on all levels from your guy. I can guarantee that plenty of people are going to flame you for what you are doing. Be prepared. You will get plenty of replies to this post.



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Old 07-12-2005, 12:10 PM   #3
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You need to stop your cycle now.....You have 0 knowledge of steroids or how to use them, spend the next 3 months educating yourself then maybe you can think about doing a cycle...
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You need to stop your cycle now.....You have 0 knowledge of steroids or how to use them, spend the next 3 months educating yourself then maybe you can think about doing a cycle...
what te fuck are you talking about

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DO NOT STOP THE CYCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I don't know if you are trying to be funny(it isn't), but I hope that is what you are attempting. He needs to get a lot of Nolvadex and run his post cycle and research the hell out of anything and everything.

He needs to spend a lot of time on this and other forums to learn as much as he can.



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listen. all i am going to say is that putting anything foreign in your body can be harmful. with that said, i believe you should safely exit your current cycle with proper PCT. (if you need advice with that, ask.)

do your homework and don't listen to any one individual.

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Hi guys, I would like to know what you think of this cycle and please do be honest, I need pro advice !! I have be training for about 4 years I weight 180 and measure 5"8 about 15% body fat....This is not my first cycle...
I have 1 bottle of D-Bol ( 100/10mg Tabs)... that I am running 4 times a day with meals and milk thistle...
I am also running deca-durabolin, but this is my problem, the guy who made my cycle told me to start at 1cc every week for for 3 weeks then 2 cc for 3 weeks also, and then cut down to 05. cc for the last 2 weeks.
I will be running arimidex for my post cycle...
Please I need info asap all other reasearch is contradictory...
Thanks Mat
arimidex is used to control the aromatization of steroids, it does not belong in the PCT. AI's like arimidex help to control/reduce the amount of estrogen produced from steroids that aromatize while anit-estrogens like nolvadex/clomid help to control estrogen once it is already there. they attach to the receptor site to block circulating estrogen(s).

1cc of deca = ? you have not posted what the concentration of it is. could be 200 mg/ml or 400 mg/ml...

no real reason to taper down with Deca, that's old schoool nonsense. unless you were say running test and wanted to stop the deca 2 weeks before the test to make PCT timing easier, etc. but with dbol/deca tapring down does absolutely nothing.



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where's the Test???



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thank you for the info and yes I forgot to write a couple of things... I will be taking an estrogen blocker (Arimidex) during my cycle not post cycle, my dosage is equal to 200mg=1cc...

I have been doing alot of research on these steroids... the only thing I did question was the dosages of deca... because I did not think that tapering the dosages were any good...

Sorry for not giving complete info... before hand...

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OK, the way I understand it now is that you havn't started the cycle yet. I must have misread it earlier and thought that you were already into it. You should run a form of test with everything else, or your gains aren't going to stay. Another technicality...Arimidex isn't an estrogen blocker; it prevents steroids that can aromatize into estrogen from doing so. It does nothing for actually blocking estrogen receptors. That is where Nolvadex and Clomid come in.



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thanks for the info, i did not start the cycle yet... i have got my stuff in ... but am checking for the last things before i start it...

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Your not from london but from planet unknown. You have no concept in regards to the use of steroids. Go back like i said early to chat forum. This is where your expertise is needed with the rest of your dumb fucking knowledge of NOTHING.
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Your not from london but from planet unknown. You have no concept in regards to the use of steroids. Go back like i said early to chat forum. This is where your expertise is needed with the rest of your dumb fucking knowledge of NOTHING.

Exactly, before someone takes your advise.
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Your whole cycle sucks. Run the Deca at 400 mg week. Use Testosterone, too. Limit the dbol to 6 weeks. Use a SERM for pct. Don't start a cycle without nolva on hand.



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Old 07-12-2005, 07:58 PM   #16
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I will then wait and do a test and deca cycle, l8ter on when I get my nolva and some clomid for my post cycle, I will then also read more according to some people to know more....

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