A little PCT help...

Quiller · 07-12-2005, 01:18 PM

Just finished Primo at 200 mgs week for 8 weeks. Had a little Dbol for the first 4 weeks. Nuts shrunk a little and now that it's been 10 days since my last shot of Primo I need to start PCT. I got HCG, clomid and nolvadex.
I had a schedyule planned out but a little mixed up now from conflicting posts that say I should have started HCG while ON cycle...

Well , now it's too late. It's after. How should I start? I can feel the low test. No sex drive, nuts don't seem active, a little lethargic, no motivation.

Here is my original plan, tell me if I should alter it:
500mgs HCG EOD for 10 days. Then 20 mgs Nolvadex ED. 200 mgs clomid 1 day and 100 mgs ED for 3 weeks.

Let me know what you think. I have 5000mgs HCG. 30 tabs of Nolva and 30 tabs clomid

19-chief · 07-12-2005, 01:36 PM

save the hcg and the clomid for another time. 200mg of primo should not suppress you enough to need all of those. just run the nolva for 3 weeks at 40mg ED 10-14 days after your last stick... you'll be fine.

LAM · 07-12-2005, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quiller

Just finished Primo at 200 mgs week for 8 weeks. Had a little Dbol for the first 4 weeks.

gains ?

you can probably get away with the PCT outlined above...

musclepump · 07-12-2005, 02:52 PM

HCG is generally used on cycle. Don't use it now.

CANIBALISTIC · 07-12-2005, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19-chief

save the hcg and the clomid for another time. 200mg of primo should not suppress you enough to need all of those. just run the nolva for 3 weeks at 40mg ED 10-14 days after your last stick... you'll be fine.

Great advice.

Purdue Power · 07-12-2005, 03:27 PM

Ya, I would run 40mg Nolva/day for the first 2 weeks, then 20mg/day for the third week. You might want to take it to a 4th week just in case.

Quiller · 07-12-2005, 10:51 PM

Thanks guys,.
Nolvadex it is. So all I need to do is get rid of the estrogen? Testosterone levels will begin to come back on their own?
How will this affect workouts and gains over the next few weeks. I feel great right now. Pumped, noticably bigger and getting great compliments.

Thanks
Quiller

TJ Cline · 07-12-2005, 10:57 PM

Was this your first cycle, and what gains did you make?

Quiller · 07-13-2005, 12:05 AM

Did a couple cycles of prohormones last year. This was the first real gear. Lost what little fat I had and gained size in upper body. Shoulders filled out, gained an inch in arms and just in general felt great....

LAM · 07-13-2005, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quiller

Did a couple cycles of prohormones last year. This was the first real gear. Lost what little fat I had and gained size in upper body. Shoulders filled out, gained an inch in arms and just in general felt great....

how much LBM did you gain off 200 mg/wk of primo ?

Quiller · 07-13-2005, 03:12 AM

I gained 12 lbs. It's been 10 days since my last injection and I still feel like I'm growing from every workout.

It really worked out well.

I must say, the gear gave me extra motivation to workout more often, longer and harder. Upped my diet and daily protein shakes to take full advantage of the money spent.

So, it wasn't the gear alone. I was driven to go to the full extent of what I was involved in. I really got into it. Throughout the cycle, I was working on my routine. Trying to really isolate muscle groups for a full pump and deep pain. I finally put together a back routine that hit it thouroughly, My entire body was pumped for 3 days after that workout.

I'm just kind of down.

I know these pumps will fade soon and gains will slow down. I'm surprised I'm still feeling it. I thought the half-life of Primo was 7-10 days. I'm at the end of it. How bad is this going to get? Am I going to be an estrogen bloated , no testosterone water bag?

Purdue Power · 07-13-2005, 11:33 AM

Your test levels will be a little low for awhile, but they will kick back up since your body is sensing low test and no estrogen(since the estrogen receptors are blocked) and it will kick up its test production. You need to eat lot of carbs during your pct and stay away from cardio for the first couple weeks, at least. You might want to get some Tribulus product to help kick start your test production. I would suggest Tribulus Fuel by Twinlab. You will want to get a cortisol blocker, such as 7-OXO-DHEA. There are several brands of this.

Quiller · 07-13-2005, 02:17 PM

Is 6-OXO the same thing? I still have some of that from last years 1AD cycles...

But, sounds good. I'll do the Nolva and save the rest for later..

ag-guys · 07-14-2005, 02:23 PM

A good start in any PCT research is Clomid or Nolvadex as a base.

AG
www.ag-guys.com

07-12-2005, 01:18 PM	#1
Quiller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 29	A little PCT help... Just finished Primo at 200 mgs week for 8 weeks. Had a little Dbol for the first 4 weeks. Nuts shrunk a little and now that it's been 10 days since my last shot of Primo I need to start PCT. I got HCG, clomid and nolvadex. I had a schedyule planned out but a little mixed up now from conflicting posts that say I should have started HCG while ON cycle... Well , now it's too late. It's after. How should I start? I can feel the low test. No sex drive, nuts don't seem active, a little lethargic, no motivation. Here is my original plan, tell me if I should alter it: 500mgs HCG EOD for 10 days. Then 20 mgs Nolvadex ED. 200 mgs clomid 1 day and 100 mgs ED for 3 weeks. Let me know what you think. I have 5000mgs HCG. 30 tabs of Nolva and 30 tabs clomid
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Quiller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 29	Thanks guys,. Nolvadex it is. So all I need to do is get rid of the estrogen? Testosterone levels will begin to come back on their own? How will this affect workouts and gains over the next few weeks. I feel great right now. Pumped, noticably bigger and getting great compliments. Thanks Quiller
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07-12-2005, 10:57 PM	#8
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07-13-2005, 12:05 AM	#9
Quiller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 29	Did a couple cycles of prohormones last year. This was the first real gear. Lost what little fat I had and gained size in upper body. Shoulders filled out, gained an inch in arms and just in general felt great....
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07-13-2005, 03:12 AM	#11
Quiller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 29	I gained 12 lbs. It's been 10 days since my last injection and I still feel like I'm growing from every workout. It really worked out well. I must say, the gear gave me extra motivation to workout more often, longer and harder. Upped my diet and daily protein shakes to take full advantage of the money spent. So, it wasn't the gear alone. I was driven to go to the full extent of what I was involved in. I really got into it. Throughout the cycle, I was working on my routine. Trying to really isolate muscle groups for a full pump and deep pain. I finally put together a back routine that hit it thouroughly, My entire body was pumped for 3 days after that workout. I'm just kind of down. I know these pumps will fade soon and gains will slow down. I'm surprised I'm still feeling it. I thought the half-life of Primo was 7-10 days. I'm at the end of it. How bad is this going to get? Am I going to be an estrogen bloated , no testosterone water bag?
Quiller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 29

07-13-2005, 11:33 AM	#12
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	Your test levels will be a little low for awhile, but they will kick back up since your body is sensing low test and no estrogen(since the estrogen receptors are blocked) and it will kick up its test production. You need to eat lot of carbs during your pct and stay away from cardio for the first couple weeks, at least. You might want to get some Tribulus product to help kick start your test production. I would suggest Tribulus Fuel by Twinlab. You will want to get a cortisol blocker, such as 7-OXO-DHEA. There are several brands of this.
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07-13-2005, 02:17 PM	#13
Quiller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 29	Is 6-OXO the same thing? I still have some of that from last years 1AD cycles... But, sounds good. I'll do the Nolva and save the rest for later..
Quiller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 29

07-14-2005, 02:23 PM	#14
ag-guys Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 403	A good start in any PCT research is Clomid or Nolvadex as a base. AG www.ag-guys.com
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