Tha Don

has anyone used this? if so what did you think of it? how did it compare to tren ace? would you use it again?

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Mudge

I can't say why, but I did better on acetate. The shot frequency though, forget it.

Some report stronger sides with enanthate so they use actually less, 500mg is pretty standard.

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Tha Don

but you still got nice results with the enan right? if i was to use tren i'd prob use tren enan with test enan

however if i was to use 4 weeks of tren ace on a 10 week test enan cycle, when would i use it? i was thinking weeks 6-10, then let the test esters fade out till pct, or weeks 8-12 but if i did it that way i'd need to run prop wouldn't i?

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i asked LAM something similar and he seemed to say that tren will serve just fine as the androgen replacement. thus, tren might be one of the exceptions to the rule that test should always be present as the "base" of any cycle. i think you can run tren all by it's self if you wanted to do so. so, i think you could run tren ace during the wks 8-12 of your proposed 10 wks of test enan. i think it can be done but i don't know what the results would be... let's see what the big dogs say.

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Tha Don

word

tren is certainly something i want to run, maybe a rear-load would work well

unless i throw it in the middle, so it would look something like....

weeks 1-4 test and dbol
weeks 5-10 test and tren
weeks 11-13 test (last shot wk 11) and superdrol

maybe that would work well? if i don't run the deca that is

would you think that tren (at say 75mg/eod) shut me down as much as 10 weeks of deca (@ 300mg/wk) would? how would gains compare/differ? could i expect gains from the tren to be harder/more keepable?

dg806

Not a good idea IMO. I would always run test with it, and run test past the tren. Some people do it though, I just would not recommend it.

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Maybe more so.

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I have been told that people like to run Test and Tren at a 2:1 ratio.

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5 weeks of tren enan? Dont even bother, that is my completely honest advice. But I see you mention 75mg EOD, so are you talking acetate, enan or both???

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never used it but most likely will in the future (for research purposes, lol). you are getting less active steroid with the enanthate ester so acetate is more cost effective from that point

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Tha Don

in that cycle it would be acetate, i'd start tren ace EOD after the dbol kickstart and run it up until the supderdrol rearload, seems like the only time i could fit the in tren whilst i'd have plenty of additional test in my system

if i was to run enan then i would run btoh the tren and test for say 10 weeks