Tha Don

i'm currently on ECA, which i'll be running up until the end of the week, then i plan on giving clen another try (which i started my cut on but was a bit disappointed with, i have a feeling it might have been underdosed as 160mcg/ed didn't seem to do a lot! got some new stuff on the way though)

i was on clen for 2 weeks, and this will be a month that i've been on ECA, i plan to finish off with 2 weeks of clen, my question is what is the best way to come off these without rebounding? can i just taper down the clen and be done? should i run any left over eca the week after my clen to keep the fat off whilst i raise cals slightly? or would something like CLA or another product be better for that?

its just in the past i've crashed pretty bad coming off ECA, and i want to taper off it better this time to avoid it happening again

kraziplaya

i get crashes too coming off eca stacks.... i just substitute a caffeine/energy drink from the gym store...it helps

BritChick

Never noticed any crash effect but then I guess that's because I use it pre-contest and when I come off I'm eating like a fiend!

Mikhal

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Mudge

I never used ECA for anything but energy personally, so once a day tops for me. I can't vouch for personal long term experience with that.

For T3 I never went past 6 weeks, but I know that 5 weeks to a complete recoup is the longest one study cited after something like 3 years on thyroid drugs.

I've tapered down and did cold turkey on T3, never crashed at all.

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Pirate!

Just use caffiene for a few weeks and taper down as your body adjusts.

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PapaDaca

i usually go on a food bigne when i come off,
event hough when i came off after long term use one time I got mad sick.