nandro and equipose

alexvega · 09-15-2005, 07:10 PM

ihi everyone, ia´m bck after 1 years after my last cycle.
the question is .
can i di a short cycle with nandro and equipose.
and how much mg . cau helpme please.
thanks

The Monkey Man · 09-15-2005, 07:15 PM

UH-OH -

Tough Old Man · 09-15-2005, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexvega

ihi everyone, ia´m bck after 1 years after my last cycle.
the question is .
can i di a short cycle with nandro and equipose.
and how much mg . cau helpme please.
thanks

Hi everyone. I did a cycle a year ago and I'm back. My question is this. Can I do a short cycle of Nandro and EQ. If so how many Mgs should I take? Could you please help me.

Are you talking about doing Deca and EQ together. If so please tell me the reasoning behind your thoughts.

Tough

lnvanry · 09-15-2005, 11:24 PM

I know a pro who runs Deca/tren/prop/EQ...That is his bread and butter.

LAM · 09-15-2005, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Hi everyone. I did a cycle a year ago and I'm back. My question is this. Can I do a short cycle of Nandro and EQ. If so how many Mgs should I take? Could you please help me.

Are you talking about doing Deca and EQ together. If so please tell me the reasoning behind your thoughts.

Tough

there is no synergistic effect from running deca and EQ at the same time.

lnvanry · 09-15-2005, 11:44 PM

LAM please son't burn me, but "synergistic?"

LAM · 09-16-2005, 12:02 AM

by definition - synergistic - used especially of drugs or muscles that work together so the total effect is greater than the sum of the two (or more)

lnvanry · 09-16-2005, 12:13 AM

Why does DECA/EQ have no synergistic effect. B/c one bulks mass and another add LBM...couldn't that be interpreted as the best of both worlds?

**Mudge** · 09-16-2005, 12:41 AM

What do you call mass if not LBM, fat? All that stuff is a bunch of abused terminology, people get fat from their diets, people get lean from their diets too. Drugs may affect water retention but thats about it.

Winstrol is not going to keep you lean while eating Twinkies because its a "cutting drug."

As for synergism, I love stacking but I dont think 1+1=3, or I'd be one bad motherfucker. Negating returns is the name of this game, where things get ever more difficult.

I like EQ even though it doesn't have a very noticeable effect in me other than my veins did show up more probably from blood volume, and I felt like I had much more endurance because my rep count didn't hardly drop at all between sets. It gave me a little Superman boost, and a little ego boost from the big veins.

Deca though I dont care if I never use it again, except for the one time it helped me with the joints I feel more effect from washing my car.

Where is the testosterone woman?

Tha Don · 09-16-2005, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

Where is the testosterone woman?

haha, beat me to it

alexvega · 09-17-2005, 04:22 PM

i would like heard the Mudge opinion.

and yes , i talk about to run it 2 togheter.
thanks a lot

**Mudge** · 09-17-2005, 05:30 PM

I dont particularly care for deca, I wont say I hate it because it doesn't give me nasty side effects but it just doesn't do much of anything for me I feel. I probably wont use it again.

EQ I did like, its not as profound as tren but its nice stuff. I'd like to run it again someday. I'd like to see what that and tren along with test would do.

Tha Don · 09-17-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudge

I dont particularly care for deca, I wont say I hate it because it doesn't give me nasty side effects but it just doesn't do much of anything for me I feel. I probably wont use it again.

EQ I did like, its not as profound as tren but its nice stuff. I'd like to run it again someday. I'd like to see what that and tren along with test would do.

wow, i've heard people say pretty much the opposite, EQ = crap, deca = good

apparently you can run 1/2 as much deca as you can EQ and get better gains from it, i've also heard EQ gives bad acne and messes with your BP a lot, but like i said... this is just stuff i've heard, i would like to check out EQ myself one day, maybe i'll add it on my next bulker, but want to check out deca 1st, i can't say no to all that extra mass without the sides

**Mudge** · 09-17-2005, 06:00 PM

EQ is not particularly strong, but I dont run 300mg of it a week and expect big things. I recovered a lot better between sets, no BS. I also liked the veiny feel. I get a little bloat from deca and thats about it, I believe I was using it when I climbed to 268. Deca is extremely popular and has been for a long time, I'm not saying its shit for everyone, I just wasn't impressed by it at all. I dont even remember but I believe I've run it 3 times.

Tha Don · 09-17-2005, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexvega

i would like heard the Mudge opinion.

and yes , i talk about to run it 2 togheter.
thanks a lot

Tha Don · 09-17-2005, 06:07 PM

alexvega - haha sorry bro, couldn't resist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudge

EQ is not particularly strong, but I dont run 300mg of it a week and expect big things. I recovered a lot better between sets, no BS. I also liked the veiny feel. I get a little bloat from deca and thats about it, I believe I was using it when I climbed to 268. Deca is extremely popular and has been for a long time, I'm not saying its shit for everyone, I just wasn't impressed by it at all. I dont even remember but I believe I've run it 3 times.

thanks for that insight mudge, don't you feel you added some quality mass from it though, or was it just bloat and not a lot else? this is what is swaying me towards a test only again, as then when i can add in the deca i can asess how effective it is compared to the test alone

what sort of doses did you run with the deca, and what did you stack it with? do you think running proviron/letro might have improved the quality of the gains a bit?

**Mudge** · 09-17-2005, 06:16 PM

Well sure, the human body is 70% water anyway and a great deal of that is cell hydration. So even if you look soft some of it is still "muscle."

I think the last time I ran deca I was probably 900mg a week, my first time was 600mg a week and I just was never impressed with it.

I always run test, I know I was running drol on my climb as well because I remember about 20 pounds in the first 3 weeks.

I would like to try proviron perhaps someday, its a touch expensive even in powder form, and there is constant debate on it being worth anything special. I'm about to hop back on some AI which I have run pretty much all the time. I'm quite sure I was doing letro at the time.

Tha Don · 09-17-2005, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudge

Well sure, the human body is 70% water anyway and a great deal of that is cell hydration. So even if you look soft some of it is still "muscle."

I think the last time I ran deca I was probably 900mg a week, my first time was 600mg a week and I just was never impressed with it.

I always run test, I know I was running drol on my climb as well because I remember about 20 pounds in the first 3 weeks.

I would like to try proviron perhaps someday, its a touch expensive even in powder form, and there is constant debate on it being worth anything special. I'm about to hop back on some AI which I have run pretty much all the time. I'm quite sure I was doing letro at the time.

so on a bulker would you prefer to just run a higher dose of test, rather than add deca or eq in? or are there other compounds you like for bulking?

**Mudge** · 09-17-2005, 07:40 PM

No, I much prefer stacking over going nuts on just one thing.

alexvega · 09-19-2005, 04:54 PM

whaooooooooooo
the topic put on interest
thanks mr mudge.

**Pirate!** · 09-20-2005, 07:52 AM

I wasn't impressed with the nandrolone as an anabolic agent, but it definitely helped my joints and tendons. It also made me feel damn good. I'll use it again in a stack for those reasons.

To address the orginal question: a short cycle of eq and deca would be a mistake. You can use them both together along with testosterone with great success doing a long cycle.

BUSTINOUT · 09-20-2005, 04:44 PM

I too prefer EQ over Deca...and I've done a lot of both. A can olse say from experience that when taken together, the results were not impressive.

alexvega · 09-21-2005, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I wasn't impressed with the nandrolone as an anabolic agent, but it definitely helped my joints and tendons. It also made me feel damn good. I'll use it again in a stack for those reasons.

To address the orginal question: a short cycle of eq and deca would be a mistake. You can use them both together along with testosterone with great success doing a long cycle.

yes, broter, but i don´t want to run more that 3 weeks.
because i fear to fell the like the last time-
and too i´m havetaking phsyquiatric medices.

gococksDJS · 09-21-2005, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexvega

yes, broter, but i don´t want to run more that 3 weeks.
because i fear to fell the like the last time-
and too i´m havetaking phsyquiatric medices.

If you don't want to run anything longer than three weeks, save your money. Especially with EQ. You have to run EQ long and hard or it's not worth running at all.

Tough Old Man · 09-22-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

If you don't want to run anything longer than three weeks, save your money. Especially with EQ. You have to run EQ long and hard or it's not worth running at all.

O'm going to find out as I'm going to run it along side test in 4 weeks on 2 weeks off cycles for the next yr

gococksDJS · 09-22-2005, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

O'm going to find out as I'm going to run it along side test in 4 weeks on 2 weeks off cycles for the next yr

I ran 600mg/week for 12 weeks and I still feel this dose wasn't high enough. next time I run EQ ill run at least 800mg/week.

BUSTINOUT · 09-22-2005, 03:28 PM

My last high dose cycle of EQ was finished off with a DVT(blood clot) in my thigh. I'm not saying the two were related but after years of messing with this stuff, blood clots were one of the listed side effects of increased red clood cells (which EQ promotes). The whole experience did leave me wonderng though. Gains do not increase proportionately with the dose when it comes to EQ but it is still a kickin' AS. Your gains just have to be realisitic.

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09-16-2005, 12:41 AM	#9
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09-17-2005, 05:30 PM	#12
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	I dont particularly care for deca, I wont say I hate it because it doesn't give me nasty side effects but it just doesn't do much of anything for me I feel. I probably wont use it again. EQ I did like, its not as profound as tren but its nice stuff. I'd like to run it again someday. I'd like to see what that and tren along with test would do.
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09-15-2005, 11:24 PM	#4
lnvanry primeau Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,163 Photos: 16	I know a pro who runs Deca/tren/prop/EQ...That is his bread and butter.

09-15-2005, 11:44 PM	#6
lnvanry primeau Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,163 Photos: 16	LAM please son't burn me, but "synergistic?"

09-16-2005, 12:13 AM	#8
lnvanry primeau Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,163 Photos: 16	Why does DECA/EQ have no synergistic effect. B/c one bulks mass and another add LBM...couldn't that be interpreted as the best of both worlds?

09-17-2005, 04:22 PM	#11
alexvega simpsom Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: costaRica Posts: 1,159 Photos: 23	i would like heard the Mudge opinion. and yes , i talk about to run it 2 togheter. thanks a lot

09-17-2005, 06:00 PM	#14
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	EQ is not particularly strong, but I dont run 300mg of it a week and expect big things. I recovered a lot better between sets, no BS. I also liked the veiny feel. I get a little bloat from deca and thats about it, I believe I was using it when I climbed to 268. Deca is extremely popular and has been for a long time, I'm not saying its shit for everyone, I just wasn't impressed by it at all. I dont even remember but I believe I've run it 3 times.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-17-2005, 06:16 PM	#17
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	Well sure, the human body is 70% water anyway and a great deal of that is cell hydration. So even if you look soft some of it is still "muscle." I think the last time I ran deca I was probably 900mg a week, my first time was 600mg a week and I just was never impressed with it. I always run test, I know I was running drol on my climb as well because I remember about 20 pounds in the first 3 weeks. I would like to try proviron perhaps someday, its a touch expensive even in powder form, and there is constant debate on it being worth anything special. I'm about to hop back on some AI which I have run pretty much all the time. I'm quite sure I was doing letro at the time.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-17-2005, 07:40 PM	#19
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	No, I much prefer stacking over going nuts on just one thing.
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09-19-2005, 04:54 PM	#20
alexvega simpsom Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: costaRica Posts: 1,159 Photos: 23	whaooooooooooo the topic put on interest thanks mr mudge.

09-20-2005, 07:52 AM	#21
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,817	I wasn't impressed with the nandrolone as an anabolic agent, but it definitely helped my joints and tendons. It also made me feel damn good. I'll use it again in a stack for those reasons. To address the orginal question: a short cycle of eq and deca would be a mistake. You can use them both together along with testosterone with great success doing a long cycle.
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09-20-2005, 04:44 PM	#22
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,418	I too prefer EQ over Deca...and I've done a lot of both. A can olse say from experience that when taken together, the results were not impressive.

09-22-2005, 03:28 PM	#27
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,418	My last high dose cycle of EQ was finished off with a DVT(blood clot) in my thigh. I'm not saying the two were related but after years of messing with this stuff, blood clots were one of the listed side effects of increased red clood cells (which EQ promotes). The whole experience did leave me wonderng though. Gains do not increase proportionately with the dose when it comes to EQ but it is still a kickin' AS. Your gains just have to be realisitic.