Thread: Could someone please

i hope you didnt get the winni and dbol from a online site that supposedly sells legalsteroids... whoever told you to run enanthat first told you the best advice... what are your stats.. i know you havent ran gear before and i can tell from your initial post that you dont have much knowledge.. lets see if we can help... how old are you and how long have you been working out... and your height and weight

Originally Posted by kraziplaya

i hope you didnt get the winni and dbol from a online site that supposedly sells legalsteroids... whoever told you to run enanthat first told you the best advice... what are your stats.. i know you havent ran gear before and i can tell from your initial post that you dont have much knowledge.. lets see if we can help... how old are you and how long have you been working out... and your height and weight

I am 22

5'8 160...been working out most of my life

Originally Posted by Bazooka Tooth

help me put a cycle together?

This is my first time on gear so Im a little confused where to begin, I was told enanthate is a good place to start, but Im broke now and got some other stuff before the fact....And I kind of wanted to start on pills first or something topical



anyways, I have

M1t
anadrol
d-bol
and winni-v

all on the way...Im pretty sure I should not take them all at the same time, so where should I start?

Im guessing start with the weaker one? and work up to the heavier stuff?

or do the opposite, that way as Im running out, coming off of it wont be as bad?

Thanks

Running these together would be the worst idea in the world. That is a combo guaranteed to frapee your liver in no time. You need to put these aside and get some test. Either enanthate or cypionate. You may be scared of needles but your liver will thank you as opposed to what you have ordered. You can run 25mg of dbol every day for the first 4 weeks of a 10 week cycle of test at 500mg/week. Anadrol is some serious shit, and winny can be used to cut if your diet is right, but these are pointless if you aren't running some sort of test base.

do you have a real good diet plan going on? i know some people are hardgainers but you should be able to hit 170-180 naturally at your height... theres no point in running some gear if you dont have a solid eating program... test enan or cyp injected twice weekly 200 to 250 2x a week is recommeneded as everyones first cycle... you have to get a pct plan in order too.. nolva or clomid... do a LOT more research... theres a lot of good info on im just scroll backwards in the anabolics section and read a lot... if you got your pills from legalsteroids you might as well just throw it away.. its worthless.. u could run the m1t with some 4ad i guess but it wont be nearly as great as a test only cycle...

no, no diet...I dont want to get scary big, just more defined and a little bigger...Im sure that after I start though I will want to get even bigger yet...

but I will look into things like you said...

Chicken seems to be what I hear most as far as what to eat..

Anadrol was recommended to me the most, but that was from a supplier I met on Ebay...would probably say anything to make a sale.

Thanks for the help all

and yea I ordered online, cant remember where from...the anadrol was a paypal order, then the guy quit answering my emails...genious move on his part...not like Im going to the police complaining how I never got the steroids I paid for...and there is no receipt to show for it(unless its online)

My brother is shorter than you and when he doesn't train weighs the same when he is light. You should get your diet going first bro.

But all orals? You looking for an early grave here?

I thought orals were less potent?

Do they attack your liver more?

im not qualified to post in this section but, man, you really need to learn a whole bunch more before you go fucking with your hormones.

Originally Posted by Bazooka Tooth

I thought orals were less potent?

Do they attack your liver more?

Injectables dont, orals DO*. Some livers are very powerfull, but anything you put in your mouth eventually goes through your cleansing system bro. Orals are methylated to protect them from the liver, that causes strain as the liver tries hard to break down these foreign substances.

Just like any other pill you put in you, like Tylenol, which is the number two cause of liver chirrhosis in the US.

* Exceptions would be injectable versions of orals, winstrol, dbol etc

Just take some time and do some research, be patient. Get your diet in check, ditch the orals for a first cycle (they are probably fake anyway considering your source)and get your PCT on hand before you begin. I have been scared of needles my whole life, but it took me less than three seconds to make my first stick....all smooth sailing since. I beginning my fifth week on a test enanthate 500 mg/week cycle (my first) and I have made some incredible (pretty clean 185-205 so far) gains. Hang around and use the search function. Good luck

Thanks all, been a real help...I will take your advice

anyone care to buy some of what I bought? lol

Originally Posted by Mudge

Injectables dont, orals DO*. Some livers are very powerfull, but anything you put in your mouth eventually goes through your cleansing system bro. Orals are methylated to protect them from the liver, that causes strain as the liver tries hard to break down these foreign substances.

Just like any other pill you put in you, like Tylenol, which is the number two cause of liver chirrhosis in the US.

* Exceptions would be injectable versions of orals, winstrol, dbol etc

I dont think I want to take your advice, you are scary big....lol jk look like Marius Pudzienowski(sp?)


sounds good, I think Ill do that

Originally Posted by Bazooka Tooth

and yea I ordered online, cant remember where from...the anadrol was a paypal order, then the guy quit answering my emails...genious move on his part...not like Im going to the police complaining how I never got the steroids I paid for...and there is no receipt to show for it(unless its online)

hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there is a good chance that everything you just bought is fake, there is a ridiculous amount of scamming going on on-line

and i agree with what everyone else has recommended, start off with a test only cycle, 500mg/wk of enan/cyp for 10 weeks, orals ain't all that

Originally Posted by Bazooka Tooth

I dont think I want to take your advice, you are scary big....lol jk look like Marius Pudzienowski(sp?)


sounds good, I think Ill do that

That is not him in his avi, but he is one HUGE dude!

dg806---is that you in your avi?

Originally Posted by doeslayer

dg806---is that you in your avi?

no, thats me

Originally Posted by doeslayer

dg806---is that you in your avi?

you're kidding right?

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

you're kidding right?

Can't you tell the people that ask these questions are really into the bodybuilding lifestyle? Lou is one of the best known faces in the history of the sport.