deca

Tha Don · 09-19-2005, 07:58 PM

check this out, i've highlighted the sentances for discussion in bold

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The major drawback for competitive purposes is that in many cases nandrolone metabolites will be detectable in a drug screen for up to a year (or more) after use. This is clearly due to the form of administration. Esterified compounds have a high affinity to stay stored in fatty tissues. While we can accurately estimate the time frame it will take for a given dose to enter circulation from an injection site, we cannot know for sure that 100% of the steroid will have been metabolized at any given point. Small amounts may indeed be stubborn in leaving fatty tissue, particularly after heavy, longer-term use. Some quantity of nandrolone decanoate may therefore be left to sporadically enter into the blood stream many months after use. This process may be further aggravated when dieting for a show, a time when body fat stores are being actively depleted (possibly freeing more steroid). This has no doubt been the cause for many unexpected positives on a drug screen. The fact that nandrolone has been isolated as the "hands-off" injectable for the drug tested athlete is most likely due to its popularity (and therefore common appearance on drug screens). The same risk would of course hold true for other long chain esterified injectables such as Equipoise, and Primobolan.

taken from http://www.steroidology.com/steroid-...Deca-Durabolin

so it is saying that many months after a cycle, i could be getting deca released into my blood stream? and would these amounts of deca be enough to mess up my hormonal axis and blood lipids? or will the amounts be too low to have any serious effect?

**Pirate!** · 09-20-2005, 07:44 AM

It depends on multiple factors, including the rate in which you, personally, metabolize the drug, how long you use it, what dose, how long after the use, etc. Yes, Deca can linger for many months and screw with the HPTA.

**Mudge** · 09-20-2005, 08:26 AM

I posted how deca had someone in heavy suppression 11 months after his cycle, and he is a gifted individual carrying over a lean 280 pounds after one cycle. He competed in the WWE Tough Enough about a year ago.

Tha Don · 09-20-2005, 10:04 AM

damm that sucks!

and everyone (like medical ppl and ppl that only have a basic knowledge of AAS) seem to say deca is a very effective and popular steroid, as it gives good gains and has minimal side effects, is HPTA supression really that bad?? i was under the impression that recovery problems can always be avoided by running hcg on cycle and decent pct, is deca some sort of exception or something?

if i was to drop the deca, what is the next best thing? primobolan maybe? (as it is anabolic, low sides, and not as supressive), i hear EQ can give really bad acne, so i don't want to risk that this cycle, the test and proviron will be enough to deal with

musclepump · 09-20-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by young d

if i was to drop the deca, what is the next best thing? primobolan maybe? (as it is anabolic, low sides, and not as supressive), i hear EQ can give really bad acne, so i don't want to risk that this cycle, the test and proviron will be enough to deal with

Most people will tell you Primo is a woman's drug, but two IFBB Pro's I work out with/have worked out with say it's a fantastic hardener and both use it each cycle.

Tha Don · 09-20-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by musclepump

Most people will tell you Primo is a woman's drug, but two IFBB Pro's I work out with/have worked out with say it's a fantastic hardener and both use it each cycle.

yeah, i know a couple of experienced guys that have ran primo and both say it is awesome stuff

TJ Cline · 09-20-2005, 04:12 PM

Almost all the pros and top amatures I knew in L.A. used primo in their cut up cycle.....hell it was like a law or something.

BUSTINOUT · 09-20-2005, 04:29 PM

Primo is a good drug while cutting and on limited calories...assuming you can find the real stuff in the first place. If you are looking in Mexico, you can almost count on it being bunk. Also, if you were considering deca, chances are your goals were different than someone taking primo. I'd say hit the EQ instead of Deca. Primo is not worth the trouble of locating most of the time.

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BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,418	Primo is a good drug while cutting and on limited calories...assuming you can find the real stuff in the first place. If you are looking in Mexico, you can almost count on it being bunk. Also, if you were considering deca, chances are your goals were different than someone taking primo. I'd say hit the EQ instead of Deca. Primo is not worth the trouble of locating most of the time.