Newbie with [no doubt, tedious] questions !

MissionMikey · 10-03-2005, 02:05 PM

Hey People,
Very new to the "secret sauce" side of things.Am in my early 30's and have only ever used supplements,...Creatine,liver pills n' Amino Acids,etc,etc.Anyhoo...I lost alot of the results I had gained over the years through no fault of my own [upheavels & traumas!] now I've decided to bulk up a little.I don't wanna be a juicer from here on in,just cheat a bit to get back to where I ought to be,by now! I got some Deca,but have found out although it seems best as far as side-effects go...apparently you end up with nothing but "decorations" hanging between ya legs using it on its own.
Can anyone tell me what is best to use with it.I can get a hold of British Dragon Turanabol,Stanabol,Anadrol Androlic !,Anavar and the classic D-bol real easy,but....really don't think I'd want the "hairloss" and "acne" that comes with D-bol [so I've heard!] Any tips n' pointers + preffered stacking ratios / timings !!! would be greatly appreciated.
Before anyone decides to crap-their-shorts-laughing at my next question,just consider answering! Is it worthwhile to take store supplements while on a cycle OR is it a anabolic zone ONLY when juicing !!? Well,I don't know........!

**Pirate!** · 10-03-2005, 02:39 PM

Use Testosterone with Deca. Supplements such as whey, vitamins, K-R-ALA and others are worth using, but you don't need performance enhancing supplements like creatine while on gear. Please do more research before starting. What is your post-cycle therapy plan?

MissionMikey · 10-03-2005, 03:25 PM

I'm still literally at the planning stage for all this,I'm reading up daily on stuff like Clomid,etc,etc for post cycle.I just wanna have the right stuff here in front of me before I even begin,as if I make the decision on "this n' that" and then maybe stuff is out of stock or goes missing or whatever ....I'm like that! I just have to have whatever it is I'm gonna use there in front of me for the cycle.So no complications down the line!!

Tough Old Man · 10-03-2005, 03:30 PM

Everything you posted looks like orals. Try this and foget the orals.

"TESTOSTRONE"

MissionMikey · 10-03-2005, 03:41 PM

My Testosterone is fine...Got a nice Smith Machine that takes good care of that....Its just I had a major series of f*cked up events in my life that caused me to drop 27kgs of body weight [ and no it wasn't all "fat" either!] Its just psychological torture to go through all the pain all over again for the physique I already had.I put most of it back on,but,I just know I feel "as weak as a kitten" compared to how I used to feel....Its all psychological....as Tom Platz used to say...!

**Pirate!** · 10-03-2005, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissionMikey

My Testosterone is fine...Got a nice Smith Machine that takes good care of that...

This is the dumbest thing I've heard all day. When you take the deca, your natural testosterone production is going to stop. How is a Smith Machine going to take care of that?

You should study more before you shop. Tough was telling you to do a cycle of testosterone ONLY before trying other steroids. Solid advice, IMO.

gococksDJS · 10-03-2005, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissionMikey

My Testosterone is fine...Got a nice Smith Machine that takes good care of that....Its just I had a major series of f*cked up events in my life that caused me to drop 27kgs of body weight [ and no it wasn't all "fat" either!] Its just psychological torture to go through all the pain all over again for the physique I already had.I put most of it back on,but,I just know I feel "as weak as a kitten" compared to how I used to feel....Its all psychological....as Tom Platz used to say...!

My smith machine gave me gyno...

MissionMikey · 10-04-2005, 01:31 AM

I'm talking about the boost in testosterone I get from doing squats !!!! That exercise has that effect on me! I just thought Tough Old Man WAS RIPPING THE PISS OUTTA ME AN SAYIN STAY "NATURAL",like my own testosterone wasn't good enough !!!!

MissionMikey · 10-04-2005, 01:48 AM

I thought everyone knew "squats" are the shit! No other exercise is like it.I hear bitches going on and on and on about what they can bench...and I just say "Do some f*ckin' squats & have a real work-out".I'm only thinkin of doing steroids 'cos although my Smith Machine has helped with noticable gains...I still wanna make up the lost ground.

MissionMikey · 10-04-2005, 02:36 AM

Yep! Jus' done some heavy heavy squats and wanna kill or fuck something....so sensing some elevation in testosterone!....since it effects mood and muscle growth....

And just goin' back to the "dumb" thing....Well I guess you folks still think some Muslims with box cutters are responsible for 9/11 !!!! So its not the mossad then!? You know the folks that own Banking,media,hollywood,publishing houses,porno empires,the neo-cons that wanted war in Iraq,the guy that invented the atom bomb...German name but he ain't a german!!.... Huh?????

If I'm so dumb and you folks so intelligent,you let me know why hollywood ain't ever accused of being a racist,vugar shithole that churns out nothing but racial stereo-types !!? They're only 2% of the U.S. population yet 98% of hollywood! Racist!? Nepotism!? or false idols Jesus talked about!!!

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertai...l#anchor436002

www.vialls.com

Guess you know all about the Talmud too huh!? Damn! I wish I'd never left school at 12 years old...I'd be as clever as clever can be!!! Dumbed down just like www.savethemales.ca says!

gregster · 10-04-2005, 12:27 PM

Seriously though mikey if your gonna run deca, your smith machine ain'y gonna to "squat" to raise you test levels and you won't wanna fuck anything.

First steroid cycle = test(injectables) no ifs no buts no maybes, If its your first cycle you will probably grow like a weed(as long as you don't smoke any!!!)

My advise is to do research and lots of it

www.steroidology.com

www.steroid.com

but test is the only option for a first cycle. You need to plan PCT, take nolva every day and clomid for 3-4 weeks after you finish injecting test

But drop the attitude, the guys on here were giving you solid advice, and what you said about your smith WAS dumb. If you hand out insults don't expect advice that you so obviouslt need right now

Good Luck

Tha Don · 10-04-2005, 12:45 PM

ditto gregster

btw you might want to check that link in your sig.

Tha Don · 10-04-2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

My smith machine gave me gyno...

mine always gives me acne

gregster · 10-04-2005, 12:48 PM

From your posts Young d and Go cocks I'm glad I don't use the smith machine.
But Squatting has given me piles though

Heimir · 10-04-2005, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

My smith machine gave me gyno...

Thats because you used it to much and did not add DB press.

So many people gets gyno by using the Smith machine alone.
Its a well known fact if you cycle using only the Smith and not adding any to prevent gyno.

I thought you knew better.

gococksDJS · 10-04-2005, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissionMikey

Yep! Jus' done some heavy heavy squats and wanna kill or fuck something....so sensing some elevation in testosterone!....since it effects mood and muscle growth....

And just goin' back to the "dumb" thing....Well I guess you folks still think some Muslims with box cutters are responsible for 9/11 !!!! So its not the mossad then!? You know the folks that own Banking,media,hollywood,publishing houses,porno empires,the neo-cons that wanted war in Iraq,the guy that invented the atom bomb...German name but he ain't a german!!.... Huh?????

If I'm so dumb and you folks so intelligent,you let me know why hollywood ain't ever accused of being a racist,vugar shithole that churns out nothing but racial stereo-types !!? They're only 2% of the U.S. population yet 98% of hollywood! Racist!? Nepotism!? or false idols Jesus talked about!!!

www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-folder.html#anchor436002

www.vialls.com

Guess you know all about the Talmud too huh!? Damn! I wish I'd never left school at 12 years old...I'd be as clever as clever can be!!! Dumbed down just like www.savethemales.ca says!

what in the hell is this? A collaboration of the dumbest shit that could come out of your mouth at once? We were correct in calling you dumb, because a german or guy with a german name didn't invent the atomic bomb. Leo Szilard and Enrico Fermi created the first controlled nuclear chain reaction, and there can't be a nuclear bomb without a nuclear reaction. You can't build a tire and claim you invented the wheel. Szilard was born in Budapest and Fermi in Rome, so please teach us more.

Tough Old Man · 10-04-2005, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissionMikey

Yep! Jus' done some heavy heavy squats and wanna kill or fuck something....so sensing some elevation in testosterone!...!

Well then you didn't squat enough weight if your still not to tired to fuck. When I'm done squating, I don't have the energy to fuck or the strength to kill something. I think your full of shit. You definitely need another few sessions with your head doctor.

Tough

10-03-2005, 02:05 PM	#1
MissionMikey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	Newbie with [no doubt, tedious] questions ! Hey People, Very new to the "secret sauce" side of things.Am in my early 30's and have only ever used supplements,...Creatine,liver pills n' Amino Acids,etc,etc.Anyhoo...I lost alot of the results I had gained over the years through no fault of my own [upheavels & traumas!] now I've decided to bulk up a little.I don't wanna be a juicer from here on in,just cheat a bit to get back to where I ought to be,by now! I got some Deca,but have found out although it seems best as far as side-effects go...apparently you end up with nothing but "decorations" hanging between ya legs using it on its own. Can anyone tell me what is best to use with it.I can get a hold of British Dragon Turanabol,Stanabol,Anadrol Androlic !,Anavar and the classic D-bol real easy,but....really don't think I'd want the "hairloss" and "acne" that comes with D-bol [so I've heard!] Any tips n' pointers + preffered stacking ratios / timings !!! would be greatly appreciated. Before anyone decides to crap-their-shorts-laughing at my next question,just consider answering! Is it worthwhile to take store supplements while on a cycle OR is it a anabolic zone ONLY when juicing !!? Well,I don't know........!

10-04-2005, 12:27 PM	#11
gregster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 24	Seriously though mikey if your gonna run deca, your smith machine ain'y gonna to "squat" to raise you test levels and you won't wanna fuck anything. First steroid cycle = test(injectables) no ifs no buts no maybes, If its your first cycle you will probably grow like a weed(as long as you don't smoke any!!!) My advise is to do research and lots of it www.steroidology.com www.steroid.com but test is the only option for a first cycle. You need to plan PCT, take nolva every day and clomid for 3-4 weeks after you finish injecting test But drop the attitude, the guys on here were giving you solid advice, and what you said about your smith WAS dumb. If you hand out insults don't expect advice that you so obviouslt need right now Good Luck
	Respect to all Juiced UK

10-04-2005, 12:48 PM	#14
gregster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 24	From your posts Young d and Go cocks I'm glad I don't use the smith machine. But Squatting has given me piles though
	Respect to all Juiced UK

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10-03-2005, 03:25 PM	#3
MissionMikey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	I'm still literally at the planning stage for all this,I'm reading up daily on stuff like Clomid,etc,etc for post cycle.I just wanna have the right stuff here in front of me before I even begin,as if I make the decision on "this n' that" and then maybe stuff is out of stock or goes missing or whatever ....I'm like that! I just have to have whatever it is I'm gonna use there in front of me for the cycle.So no complications down the line!!

10-03-2005, 03:30 PM	#4
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	Everything you posted looks like orals. Try this and foget the orals. "TESTOSTRONE"

10-03-2005, 03:41 PM	#5
MissionMikey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	My Testosterone is fine...Got a nice Smith Machine that takes good care of that....Its just I had a major series of f*cked up events in my life that caused me to drop 27kgs of body weight [ and no it wasn't all "fat" either!] Its just psychological torture to go through all the pain all over again for the physique I already had.I put most of it back on,but,I just know I feel "as weak as a kitten" compared to how I used to feel....Its all psychological....as Tom Platz used to say...!

10-04-2005, 01:31 AM	#8
MissionMikey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	I'm talking about the boost in testosterone I get from doing squats !!!! That exercise has that effect on me! I just thought Tough Old Man WAS RIPPING THE PISS OUTTA ME AN SAYIN STAY "NATURAL",like my own testosterone wasn't good enough !!!!

10-04-2005, 01:48 AM	#9
MissionMikey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	I thought everyone knew "squats" are the shit! No other exercise is like it.I hear bitches going on and on and on about what they can bench...and I just say "Do some f*ckin' squats & have a real work-out".I'm only thinkin of doing steroids 'cos although my Smith Machine has helped with noticable gains...I still wanna make up the lost ground.

10-04-2005, 02:36 AM	#10
MissionMikey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	Yep! Jus' done some heavy heavy squats and wanna kill or fuck something....so sensing some elevation in testosterone!....since it effects mood and muscle growth.... And just goin' back to the "dumb" thing....Well I guess you folks still think some Muslims with box cutters are responsible for 9/11 !!!! So its not the mossad then!? You know the folks that own Banking,media,hollywood,publishing houses,porno empires,the neo-cons that wanted war in Iraq,the guy that invented the atom bomb...German name but he ain't a german!!.... Huh????? If I'm so dumb and you folks so intelligent,you let me know why hollywood ain't ever accused of being a racist,vugar shithole that churns out nothing but racial stereo-types !!? They're only 2% of the U.S. population yet 98% of hollywood! Racist!? Nepotism!? or false idols Jesus talked about!!! http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertai...l#anchor436002 www.vialls.com Guess you know all about the Talmud too huh!? Damn! I wish I'd never left school at 12 years old...I'd be as clever as clever can be!!! Dumbed down just like www.savethemales.ca says!

10-04-2005, 12:45 PM	#12
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	ditto gregster btw you might want to check that link in your sig.