Tes E and Winstrol First Cycle

needhelpplease · 10-05-2005, 03:51 PM

Hey guys,

I have been lifting for quit some time, and I think its time to do my first cycle. I was interested in doing a small 6 week cycle of teste and winstrol. I would be starting on week 1 with 1 cc of (200ml/10cc vile), then week 2-5 do 2 cc's, then end with 1 cc. In addition I would be taking 3 10mg winstrol tabs a every day for all 6 weeks.

I was wondering if this would be a good starting cycle and how effective would it be? Also would 30mg of winstrol a day be enough, and will the winstrol help me keep the water retention down?

Thanks a lot guys, I have done a lot of research, but I thought some real people could help me.

Stu · 10-05-2005, 03:56 PM

where exactly did you do your research?

LAM · 10-05-2005, 04:00 PM

you will not get the most out of long esters by using them for short periods of time. if you only want to run test for 6 weeks then run test prop with EOD injections (not what I would recommend for a first cycle though).

I would run test e at 500 mg/wk for 8-10 weeks. you can run nolva at 10 mg/ED to help combat bloating. wouldn't mess with winstrol. it's very overrated in terms of effects and it will put your HDL cholesterol in the shitter for months. 30 mg of winstol wouldn't be enough anyway, when taken orally the bioavailabilty of winstrol is about 70%. so your 30 mg is really only 20 mg, which is enough to screw up your lipid profile for months with very little gains to show for it

TJ Cline · 10-05-2005, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAM

you will not get the most out of long esters by using them for short periods of time. if you only want to run test for 6 weeks then run test prop with EOD injections (not what I would recommend for a first cycle though).

I would run test e at 500 mg/wk for 8-10 weeks. you can run nolva at 10 mg/ED to help combat bloating. wouldn't mess with winstrol. it's very overrated in terms of effects and it will put your HDL cholesterol in the shitter for months. 30 mg of winstol wouldn't be enough anyway, when taken orally the bioavailabilty of winstrol is about 70%. so your 30 mg is really only 20 mg, which is enough to screw up your lipid profile for months with very little gains to show for it

Quote:

Originally Posted by needhelpplease

Im 16, 155, and 6" 1.5"

i have been working out for about 2-3 months using totaly different routines. I am interested in bulking up now and adding mass to my body, rather than toning. I currently rep 130 on bench press and would like to increase that. I focus much more on upper body strength and my lower body is much stronger (proportionally) than my upper body. I was wondering if anyone here could recomond me a workout (3-4 times a week, possibly more), that would bulken me up and allow me to get bigger more quickly then my current workout allows.

Thanks

This loser needs to be shot in the head.....go pop a zit JR

TJ Cline · 10-05-2005, 04:07 PM

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=48541 (I need a routine)

needhelpplease · 10-05-2005, 04:58 PM

Umm.....

I didnt creat this account, but started using it to talk with bkc, and eventually it became mine. I did not post that.

Now if you guys could please get over that and help me with my first cycle I would appreciate it.

TJ Cline · 10-05-2005, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by needhelpplease

Umm.....

I didnt creat this account, but started using it to talk with bkc, and eventually it became mine. I did not post that.

Now if you guys could please get over that and help me with my first cycle I would appreciate it.

Please you f-ing Tool...........................

needhelpplease · 10-05-2005, 05:01 PM

Why do you guys all have your panties up in a fucking bunch. I understand you have to be cynical online, but why must you be so cynical that the world becomes one giant piece of shit. If you guys dont want to be helpfull, then thats my problem and I'll go somewhere else but dont be stupid about it and accuse me of stuff that is not relevant to me.

TJ Cline · 10-05-2005, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by needhelpplease

Im 16, 155, and 6" 1.5"

i have been working out for about 2-3 months using totaly different routines. I am interested in bulking up now and adding mass to my body, rather than toning. I currently rep 130 on bench press and would like to increase that. I focus much more on upper body strength and my lower body is much stronger (proportionally) than my upper body. I was wondering if anyone here could recomond me a workout (3-4 times a week, possibly more), that would bulken me up and allow me to get bigger more quickly then my current workout allows.

Thanks

needhelpplease · 10-05-2005, 05:05 PM

You guys are pathetic.

TJ Cline · 10-05-2005, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by needhelpplease

You guys are pathetic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by needhelpplease

Im 16, 155, and 6" 1.5"

i have been working out for about 2-3 months using totaly different routines. I am interested in bulking up now and adding mass to my body, rather than toning. I currently rep 130 on bench press and would like to increase that. I focus much more on upper body strength and my lower body is much stronger (proportionally) than my upper body. I was wondering if anyone here could recomond me a workout (3-4 times a week, possibly more), that would bulken me up and allow me to get bigger more quickly then my current workout allows.

Thanks

A 16 year old taking roids is the only pathetic thing here

TJ Cline · 10-05-2005, 05:08 PM

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=48541 (I need a routine)

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=48541 (I need a routine)

needhelpplease · 10-05-2005, 05:11 PM

Do you not fucking understand what happened? Are you being a fucking idiot on purpose?

TJ Cline · 10-05-2005, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by needhelpplease

Do you not fucking understand what happened? Are you being a fucking idiot on purpose?

16 year old baby asking for steroids is the only idiot here!!

Tough Old Man · 10-05-2005, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAM

you will not get the most out of long esters by using them for short periods of time. if you only want to run test for 6 weeks then run test prop with EOD injections (not what I would recommend for a first cycle though).

I would run test e at 500 mg/wk for 8-10 weeks. you can run nolva at 10 mg/ED to help combat bloating. wouldn't mess with winstrol. it's very overrated in terms of effects and it will put your HDL cholesterol in the shitter for months. 30 mg of winstol wouldn't be enough anyway, when taken orally the bioavailabilty of winstrol is about 70%. so your 30 mg is really only 20 mg, which is enough to screw up your lipid profile for months with very little gains to show for it

Listen to this POSTER

CANIBALISTIC · 10-05-2005, 05:47 PM

musclepump · 10-05-2005, 06:01 PM

Hilarious thread!

luke69duke69 · 10-05-2005, 06:50 PM

For a first cycle, they're right, Winstrol is a waste, but you should buy a couple more bottles of Test and run 1000mg/ week of Test E for 20-30 weeks. Stack that with Anadrol 75's, twice daily for the first ten weeks, then take a month off and start again. Eat about 5000 calories a day during this and you'll be set

luke69duke69 · 10-05-2005, 08:32 PM

I thought that was blatently sarcastic to even a newbie

**Pirate!** · 10-05-2005, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luke69duke69

For a first cycle, they're right, Winstrol is a waste, but you should buy a couple more bottles of Test and run 1000mg/ week of Test E for 20-30 weeks. Stack that with Anadrol 75's, twice daily for the first ten weeks, then take a month off and start again. Eat about 5000 calories a day during this and you'll be set

LOL, yeah great first cycle. We'll be reading about this guy in the news.

TJ Cline · 10-05-2005, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luke69duke69

I thought that was blatently sarcastic to even a newbie

sorry I didn't realize it was a joke.............I deleted my rash and judgmental comment

10-05-2005, 03:51 PM	#1
needhelpplease Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 29	Tes E and Winstrol First Cycle Hey guys, I have been lifting for quit some time, and I think its time to do my first cycle. I was interested in doing a small 6 week cycle of teste and winstrol. I would be starting on week 1 with 1 cc of (200ml/10cc vile), then week 2-5 do 2 cc's, then end with 1 cc. In addition I would be taking 3 10mg winstrol tabs a every day for all 6 weeks. I was wondering if this would be a good starting cycle and how effective would it be? Also would 30mg of winstrol a day be enough, and will the winstrol help me keep the water retention down? Thanks a lot guys, I have done a lot of research, but I thought some real people could help me.

10-05-2005, 04:00 PM	#3
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	you will not get the most out of long esters by using them for short periods of time. if you only want to run test for 6 weeks then run test prop with EOD injections (not what I would recommend for a first cycle though). I would run test e at 500 mg/wk for 8-10 weeks. you can run nolva at 10 mg/ED to help combat bloating. wouldn't mess with winstrol. it's very overrated in terms of effects and it will put your HDL cholesterol in the shitter for months. 30 mg of winstol wouldn't be enough anyway, when taken orally the bioavailabilty of winstrol is about 70%. so your 30 mg is really only 20 mg, which is enough to screw up your lipid profile for months with very little gains to show for it
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10-05-2005, 05:47 PM	#16
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Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	where exactly did you do your research?

10-05-2005, 04:58 PM	#6
needhelpplease Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 29	Umm..... I didnt creat this account, but started using it to talk with bkc, and eventually it became mine. I did not post that. Now if you guys could please get over that and help me with my first cycle I would appreciate it.

10-05-2005, 05:01 PM	#8
needhelpplease Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 29	Why do you guys all have your panties up in a fucking bunch. I understand you have to be cynical online, but why must you be so cynical that the world becomes one giant piece of shit. If you guys dont want to be helpfull, then thats my problem and I'll go somewhere else but dont be stupid about it and accuse me of stuff that is not relevant to me.

10-05-2005, 05:05 PM	#10
needhelpplease Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 29	You guys are pathetic.

10-05-2005, 05:11 PM	#13
needhelpplease Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 29	Do you not fucking understand what happened? Are you being a fucking idiot on purpose?

10-05-2005, 06:01 PM	#17
musclepump Celebrity PersonalTrainer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,666 Photos: 128	Hilarious thread!
	Let's all join together and SPEAK ENGLISH IN AMERICA.

10-05-2005, 06:50 PM	#18
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	For a first cycle, they're right, Winstrol is a waste, but you should buy a couple more bottles of Test and run 1000mg/ week of Test E for 20-30 weeks. Stack that with Anadrol 75's, twice daily for the first ten weeks, then take a month off and start again. Eat about 5000 calories a day during this and you'll be set

10-05-2005, 08:32 PM	#19
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	I thought that was blatently sarcastic to even a newbie

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