help with anti estrogens

GOMEZ · 10-10-2005, 08:56 PM

looking for other users views on what to use and whether to run it all the way through the cycle and wiil it effect gains.

Purdue Power · 10-11-2005, 06:04 PM

Always have them on hand, but only start them if you start to have problems, such as gyno. They will impede on your gains, so if you don't need them, don't use them. I am going to be running Proviron with my next cycle. It has AI properties slightly less than that of Adex. I have problems with gyno setting in, though, so I have to run something with my cycles for it.

Tha Don · 10-11-2005, 06:33 PM

i pretty much agree with PP, i ran no AI first cycle and had BP and gyno problems, so i'm planning to run adex and proviron throughout my next cycle

**dg806** · 10-12-2005, 06:42 PM

Arimidex would be your first choice. Femera is much stronger. You can actually lower your estrogen too much and kill your libido with it.

TJ Cline · 10-12-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GOMEZ

looking for other users views on what to use and whether to run it all the way through the cycle and wiil it effect gains.

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Originally Posted by GOMEZ

im 4 weeks into my first 8 week cycle, im doin 1ml of t350 weekly, 1ml of equbol 200 for 5 weeks, and 1ml of test propionate 100 twice weekly for final 3 weeks, 28 yearold male 75kg and been training for about a year. any help would be great.

Should have asked this 5 weeks ago

ST240 · 10-12-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Purdue Power

Always have them on hand, but only start them if you start to have problems, such as gyno. They will impede on your gains, so if you don't need them, don't use them. I am going to be running Proviron with my next cycle. It has AI properties slightly less than that of Adex. I have problems with gyno setting in, though, so I have to run something with my cycles for it.

I thought proviron was anti-catabolic not AI? Just wondering.

**Mudge** · 10-12-2005, 11:42 PM

Having more testosterone would reduce a catabolic state, indirectly helping it in that department.

ST240 · 10-12-2005, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

Having more testosterone would reduce a catabolic state, indirectly helping it in that department.

i know but he was saying he was gona run proviron to keep gyno on the DL or something to that effect.

**Mudge** · 10-13-2005, 12:42 AM

Right, look up the profile bro.

What happens if you take an AI, you have increased testosterone which makes it anti-catabolic to some extent. Many consider its inhibitory effects low to none, so it is sometimes taken post cycle for increased test levels. I have never used it, but considered it for its claimed assistance with high SHBG levels.

10-10-2005, 08:56 PM	#1
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10-11-2005, 06:04 PM	#2
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	Always have them on hand, but only start them if you start to have problems, such as gyno. They will impede on your gains, so if you don't need them, don't use them. I am going to be running Proviron with my next cycle. It has AI properties slightly less than that of Adex. I have problems with gyno setting in, though, so I have to run something with my cycles for it.
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dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,251	Arimidex would be your first choice. Femera is much stronger. You can actually lower your estrogen too much and kill your libido with it.
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Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	Having more testosterone would reduce a catabolic state, indirectly helping it in that department.
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10-13-2005, 12:42 AM	#9
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	Right, look up the profile bro. What happens if you take an AI, you have increased testosterone which makes it anti-catabolic to some extent. Many consider its inhibitory effects low to none, so it is sometimes taken post cycle for increased test levels. I have never used it, but considered it for its claimed assistance with high SHBG levels.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

10-11-2005, 06:33 PM	#3
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	i pretty much agree with PP, i ran no AI first cycle and had BP and gyno problems, so i'm planning to run adex and proviron throughout my next cycle

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