you need to take things like msm/glucosamine for at least 6 weeks before they really begin to work. even then, don't expect miracles. you could run EQ or Deca to lube your joints. i only have a little bit of experience with EQ and the first time i only ran 350/wk and never had issues with my shoulders like i did running 1-test/4ad... thank goodness.Originally Posted by kraziplaya



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