D-Bol.

artylives76 · 10-19-2005, 09:22 PM

Hey guys. My college roommate and I have been going to the gym for the past two months. I've noticed some gains, however we are wondering if D-Bol could help us out. I've went to some websites and researched it and read some posts here. You guys mention taking only 20-30mg a day, but this one website had 230mg capsules that you take 2-8 times a day. That's overkill isnt it? I also read here that you should NOT do a D-Bol only cycle. Why is that? I doubt I will even do this drug, but I'm just interesed in it. If I were to take it, what are some precautions/tips I should take? Btw, I'm an 18 year old male if that matters. Any information you can share about D-Bol is greatly appreciated.

PS: If D-Bol is not the way to go, can you recommend some supplements to help me get that extra kick in my workout and possibly help with my gains?

Thank you!

gococksDJS · 10-19-2005, 09:30 PM

A few tips
1.) Get ready for the onslaught.
2.) Two months and you want to try anabolics? Come on
3.) Your 18!!! Too young
4.) Wherever the hell you saw 230mg dbol was not real dbol
5.) If you read about people using 20-30mg of dbol a day, do you think 230mg eight times a day sounds a little high? Does the tylenol bottle say take between 3 and 600 as needed?
6.) A pill doesn't necessarily mean it's a "safe alternative to those dangerous needles"
7.) If you ever do consider touching anabolics, please educate yourself a whole lot more. Ask questions, and be prepared to be made fun of. It's nothing against you personally, it's carelessness among teens who think they are "hardgainers" and anabolics are the easy and safe remedy to their inability to grow even though they eat 4 meals a day and almost 2200 calories that piss us off. Ignorance about the drugs you are putting in your body is the most dangerous thing about anabolic use.

You have been lifting for two months. At 18 years old, your already high test levels combined with a proper diet will give you all the extra kick you need for now.

artylives76 · 10-19-2005, 09:33 PM

I am trying to educate myself by asking you guys... I just want some information from people who know what they are talking about.

gococksDJS · 10-19-2005, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artylives76

I am trying to educate myself by asking you guys... I just want some information from people who know what they are talking about.

Hang out, read posts and you will quickly get a feel for the guys who know a great deal about these drugs. Guys like LAM, Mudge and dg806, as well as others helped me a great deal when I started out. They speak from experience, and thats how you will learn what you need to.

artylives76 · 10-19-2005, 09:44 PM

Thank you. After reading more posts, I dont think steroids is the correct approach. But are there any SAFE products that I can take before a workout to get that extra kick?

Nachez · 10-19-2005, 10:25 PM

high test levels that is hilarious!!

7.5 mg of test a week

wow that is so high!!!!!

gococksDJS · 10-19-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nachez

high test levels that is hilarious!!

7.5 mg of test a week

wow that is so high!!!!!

What are you talking about?

TJ Cline · 10-19-2005, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artylives76

Hey guys. My college roommate and I have been going to the gym for the past two months. I've noticed some gains, however we are wondering if D-Bol could help us out. I've went to some websites and researched it and read some posts here. You guys mention taking only 20-30mg a day, but this one website had 230mg capsules that you take 2-8 times a day. That's overkill isnt it? I also read here that you should NOT do a D-Bol only cycle. Why is that? I doubt I will even do this drug, but I'm just interesed in it. If I were to take it, what are some precautions/tips I should take? Btw, I'm an 18 year old male if that matters. Any information you can share about D-Bol is greatly appreciated.

PS: If D-Bol is not the way to go, can you recommend some supplements to help me get that extra kick in my workout and possibly help with my gains?

Thank you!

When will the buffoon parade end???

Stu · 10-19-2005, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nachez

high test levels that is hilarious!!

7.5 mg of test a week

wow that is so high!!!!!

as usual your posts are of the highest quality

lnvanry · 10-20-2005, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu

as usual your posts are of the highest quality

I think he is trying to point out what your natural test production is, but that isn't even accurate....Nachez needs to read a lttle

kicka19 · 10-20-2005, 01:45 AM

i dont know much but nacho may be even less

artylives76 · 10-20-2005, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

When will the buffoon parade end???

So, I guess it's easy to be a prick on the internet? Anyway, thank you very much for that insightful reply, it was very helpful.

luke69duke69 · 10-20-2005, 05:05 PM

A simple piece of advice for that extra "kick." Have you tried plain old, been around for centuries, coffee? Add a couple protein shakes, preferably after workout and before bed and you should see some improvements in your workouts and gains with those two simple ingredients. A better area to get your info would be training, and also diet forums. I'm not being a smart ass but one gym I used to workout at had a pot of coffee at the counter, 25 cents a cup, and a sign in front of it "miracle workout booster" as a joke because everyone thinks it has to be a new fangled thing and sometimes simple works just fine.

TJ Cline · 10-20-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artylives76

So, I guess it's easy to be a prick on the internet? Anyway, thank you very much for that insightful reply, it was very helpful.

You are very welcome dummy

Tough Old Man · 10-20-2005, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artylives76

So, I guess it's easy to be a prick on the internet? Anyway, thank you very much for that insightful reply, it was very helpful.

Yes we are all pricks.............................LOL............ ..............Get yourself some EX LAX and drop 1000mg a week of that. This will elevate your septic tank to maximimn levels. Be sure to check YTFY levels from this dosage. YTFT= YOUR TO FUCKING YOUNG

TOUGH

artylives76 · 10-21-2005, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Yes we are all pricks.............................LOL............ ..............Get yourself some EX LAX and drop 1000mg a week of that. This will elevate your septic tank to maximimn levels. Be sure to check YTFY levels from this dosage. YTFT= YOUR TO FUCKING YOUNG

TOUGH

You're too fucking old, you'll be needing the laxatives more than I will.

CRASHMAN · 10-21-2005, 03:54 PM

Protein shakes
Glutamine
Creatine
Multivite

multiply your body's weight by 10, 200lbs eat more than 2000 calls for gains
you should injest 1-2 grams of protein per pound you weigh
drink 1-2 gallons of water a day
train ass off.

TJ Cline · 10-21-2005, 03:59 PM

Hi everybody my name is Jim and I'm 16 I would like to take my first steroid cycle. I have been lifting hard for 3 weeks now and seem to have hit my natural limit.

I was thinking of a Haloteston only cycle......I'm a pussy and scared of needles....so here is my idea.
1-12 50mg Stennox ( Haloteston) ED

What do you all think?????
any help will be appreciated.

Tough Old Man · 10-21-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Hi everybody my name is Jim and I'm 16 I would like to take my first steroid cycle. I have been lifting hard for 3 weeks now and seem to have hit my natural limit.

I was thinking of a Haloteston only cycle......I'm a pussy and scared of needles....so here is my idea.
1-12 50mg Stennox ( Haloteston) ED

What do you all think?????
any help will be appreciated.

Your also to old.

luke69duke69 · 10-21-2005, 10:27 PM

Foreman how old are you anyhow?

TJ Cline · 10-21-2005, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luke69duke69

Foreman how old are you anyhow?

38

aceshigh · 10-22-2005, 12:22 AM

hahahah they sound like my d-bolt thread that got locked i was waiting for heaps of funny replies

gregster · 10-22-2005, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRASHMAN

Protein shakes
Glutamine
Creatine
Multivite

multiply your body's weight by 10, 200lbs eat more than 2000 calls for gains
you should injest 1-2 grams of protein per pound you weigh
drink 1-2 gallons of water a day
train ass off.

Multiply weight by ten to get calorie intake.WTF is that all about. a 200lb guy training hard eating only 2000 calories will starve. 2000 is for 18 year old high school girls whose regular excerise consists of painting their nails. I know this kid is not very knowledgable but if we're gonna offer advise it at least should be solid.

I'm 168lbs and I eat about 3500 calories and i could do with eating more. on your calculation i should be eating 1680.

**Mudge** · 10-22-2005, 02:16 PM

I know a girl who weighs about 155 and eats 3500 calories a day, she looks AWESOME and is friggin 5'10".

Honestly for me though, despite having a job where I am fairly active, and being 229-231 pounds, I would gain weight at that level and I actually do cardio along with my weight training.

Some people believe in a metabolic set point change with time, maybe its true, because I've been near the same weight for about 2 weeks now. So eat how you need to eat, but that is the part YOU have to figure out.

gregster · 10-22-2005, 02:40 PM

You WOULD gain weight at 2000 calories???

**Mudge** · 10-22-2005, 03:08 PM

3500, I was able to maintain 252 pounds @ 4000 approximately when I had a desk job. Now I am more active, doing cardio as well, but I dont require a lot of calories. I do have to watch my carbs though.

Purdue Power · 10-22-2005, 06:03 PM

Here is about the most straightforward, nonsarcastic reply that you are going to get:

At 18, there is no way that you have fully tuned your lifting routine at all. You probably don't have your training splits optimized, your training time length at the best level, don't have the lifts that you already do being done correctly, don't have the most effective lifts in your routines, etc.

Your diet no doubt needs some work too. You need to be eating 6-7 times a day, taking in an evenly divided protein amount in each meal. Your protein goal should be at least 1g per pound of bodyweight...AT LEAST. As for you shakes, you need to get one in 45min before you lift and one right after. Your pre-lifting shake needs to be about 60-80g of complex carbs from oats or maltodextrin. It also needs to have a source of good fats(Natural PB) as well as about 30g of whey protein. You can mix it with milk for added flavor and protein. Your post lifting shake needs to have at least 40g of whey protein along with 70-100g of simple sugars, preferably from dextrose. Mix your post shake with water only. You need to get your post-shake in as soon as possible. I put all my dry components in a shaker and mix them with water at the gym as soon as I am done.

Before you go to bed, you should have a meal of at least a cup of cottage cheese. I add a half cup of plain yogurt and a scoop of whey to mine, too.

At 18, I thought I knew what I was doing too. I weighed about 170 at the time and thought I was about as big and strong as I was going to get. I am now 210 and am bigger than I thought I would ever be. I continue to learn more and more about my diet and training regimine. You are never at your limit. Keep in mind: train smarter, not harder.

10-19-2005, 09:22 PM	#1
artylives76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46	D-Bol. Hey guys. My college roommate and I have been going to the gym for the past two months. I've noticed some gains, however we are wondering if D-Bol could help us out. I've went to some websites and researched it and read some posts here. You guys mention taking only 20-30mg a day, but this one website had 230mg capsules that you take 2-8 times a day. That's overkill isnt it? I also read here that you should NOT do a D-Bol only cycle. Why is that? I doubt I will even do this drug, but I'm just interesed in it. If I were to take it, what are some precautions/tips I should take? Btw, I'm an 18 year old male if that matters. Any information you can share about D-Bol is greatly appreciated. PS: If D-Bol is not the way to go, can you recommend some supplements to help me get that extra kick in my workout and possibly help with my gains? Thank you!

10-19-2005, 09:30 PM	#2
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	A few tips 1.) Get ready for the onslaught. 2.) Two months and you want to try anabolics? Come on 3.) Your 18!!! Too young 4.) Wherever the hell you saw 230mg dbol was not real dbol 5.) If you read about people using 20-30mg of dbol a day, do you think 230mg eight times a day sounds a little high? Does the tylenol bottle say take between 3 and 600 as needed? 6.) A pill doesn't necessarily mean it's a "safe alternative to those dangerous needles" 7.) If you ever do consider touching anabolics, please educate yourself a whole lot more. Ask questions, and be prepared to be made fun of. It's nothing against you personally, it's carelessness among teens who think they are "hardgainers" and anabolics are the easy and safe remedy to their inability to grow even though they eat 4 meals a day and almost 2200 calories that piss us off. Ignorance about the drugs you are putting in your body is the most dangerous thing about anabolic use. You have been lifting for two months. At 18 years old, your already high test levels combined with a proper diet will give you all the extra kick you need for now.
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10-19-2005, 10:25 PM	#6
Nachez Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 458	high test levels that is hilarious!! 7.5 mg of test a week wow that is so high!!!!!
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10-20-2005, 05:05 PM	#13
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	A simple piece of advice for that extra "kick." Have you tried plain old, been around for centuries, coffee? Add a couple protein shakes, preferably after workout and before bed and you should see some improvements in your workouts and gains with those two simple ingredients. A better area to get your info would be training, and also diet forums. I'm not being a smart ass but one gym I used to workout at had a pot of coffee at the counter, 25 cents a cup, and a sign in front of it "miracle workout booster" as a joke because everyone thinks it has to be a new fangled thing and sometimes simple works just fine.
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10-21-2005, 03:59 PM	#18
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Hi everybody my name is Jim and I'm 16 I would like to take my first steroid cycle. I have been lifting hard for 3 weeks now and seem to have hit my natural limit. I was thinking of a Haloteston only cycle......I'm a pussy and scared of needles....so here is my idea. 1-12 50mg Stennox ( Haloteston) ED What do you all think????? any help will be appreciated.
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544

10-19-2005, 09:33 PM	#3
artylives76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46	I am trying to educate myself by asking you guys... I just want some information from people who know what they are talking about.

10-19-2005, 09:44 PM	#5
artylives76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46	Thank you. After reading more posts, I dont think steroids is the correct approach. But are there any SAFE products that I can take before a workout to get that extra kick?

10-21-2005, 03:54 PM	#17
CRASHMAN SoCal. Stud Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: in a box on a corner near you Posts: 10,080 Photos: 2	Protein shakes Glutamine Creatine Multivite multiply your body's weight by 10, 200lbs eat more than 2000 calls for gains you should injest 1-2 grams of protein per pound you weigh drink 1-2 gallons of water a day train ass off.

10-21-2005, 10:27 PM	#20
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	Foreman how old are you anyhow?
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10-22-2005, 12:22 AM	#22
aceshigh Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,822	hahahah they sound like my d-bolt thread that got locked i was waiting for heaps of funny replies
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10-22-2005, 02:16 PM	#24
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	I know a girl who weighs about 155 and eats 3500 calories a day, she looks AWESOME and is friggin 5'10". Honestly for me though, despite having a job where I am fairly active, and being 229-231 pounds, I would gain weight at that level and I actually do cardio along with my weight training. Some people believe in a metabolic set point change with time, maybe its true, because I've been near the same weight for about 2 weeks now. So eat how you need to eat, but that is the part YOU have to figure out.
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10-22-2005, 02:40 PM	#25
gregster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 24	You WOULD gain weight at 2000 calories???
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10-22-2005, 03:08 PM	#26
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	3500, I was able to maintain 252 pounds @ 4000 approximately when I had a desk job. Now I am more active, doing cardio as well, but I dont require a lot of calories. I do have to watch my carbs though.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

10-22-2005, 06:03 PM	#27
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	Here is about the most straightforward, nonsarcastic reply that you are going to get: At 18, there is no way that you have fully tuned your lifting routine at all. You probably don't have your training splits optimized, your training time length at the best level, don't have the lifts that you already do being done correctly, don't have the most effective lifts in your routines, etc. Your diet no doubt needs some work too. You need to be eating 6-7 times a day, taking in an evenly divided protein amount in each meal. Your protein goal should be at least 1g per pound of bodyweight...AT LEAST. As for you shakes, you need to get one in 45min before you lift and one right after. Your pre-lifting shake needs to be about 60-80g of complex carbs from oats or maltodextrin. It also needs to have a source of good fats(Natural PB) as well as about 30g of whey protein. You can mix it with milk for added flavor and protein. Your post lifting shake needs to have at least 40g of whey protein along with 70-100g of simple sugars, preferably from dextrose. Mix your post shake with water only. You need to get your post-shake in as soon as possible. I put all my dry components in a shaker and mix them with water at the gym as soon as I am done. Before you go to bed, you should have a meal of at least a cup of cottage cheese. I add a half cup of plain yogurt and a scoop of whey to mine, too. At 18, I thought I knew what I was doing too. I weighed about 170 at the time and thought I was about as big and strong as I was going to get. I am now 210 and am bigger than I thought I would ever be. I continue to learn more and more about my diet and training regimine. You are never at your limit. Keep in mind: train smarter, not harder.
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