Yes, another noob, I'm not asking where to buy

LittleBrother · 11-13-2005, 12:37 AM

I'm just getting into this stuff, and i've got a few questions. I was wondering if running Nolva everyday during the cycle was fine. Also if Proviron after would be good. I'm also looking for a good fat burner, any suggestions would be GREAT! I'm 6'2" 260lbs, and i'm looking get some type of definition. Not cut, but not stuck with this beer gut.

Here's a pic just to give you guys some idea of what i look like.

HELP!

TJ Cline · 11-13-2005, 12:48 AM

post the pic
Post the cycle you are doing

LittleBrother · 11-13-2005, 12:56 AM

I don't want to be a pain in the ass, but for some reason i keep posting the damned Red X.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...f/f17b78e1.jpg

luke69duke69 · 11-13-2005, 12:58 AM

1. Without seeing anything, I'd say drop the beer

LittleBrother · 11-13-2005, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luke69duke69

1. Without seeing anything, I'd say drop the beer

Haha!

This should work.

LittleBrother · 11-13-2005, 01:06 AM

That was 20 pounds ago also, i'm now at 260, and the gut is much smaller.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

post the pic
Post the cycle you are doing

Not sure what the cycle is, all i know is me and a buddy are getting things we need from a friend in the Armed Forces, and we'll be starting toward the end of december.

TJ Cline · 11-13-2005, 01:17 AM

Try a diet and some real training for the next year or two.....then get back to us about steroids.

luke69duke69 · 11-13-2005, 01:17 AM

I'm not pickin bro, it's just that was my achilies heel right there. Gear will only do so much, but the ultimate sacrifice is cutting the alcohol out

Nolva will block estrogen and block some of the water retention, but it will inhibit some of your strength gains. Running Nolva the whole cycle most of the time is a waste of money, unless you have some to burn for shits and giggles. It's like running HCG the entire time when it's really only useful the tail end of a cycle unless you have a girlfriend who notices your nut shrinkage with a measuring tape. What are you gonna be running? Clem is fine as a fat burner, as well as cytomel but you run the risk of screwing up your body permanantly that way with the cytomel. Just work on cutting calories, keeping your meals spread out evenly, and eat roughly 300grams or more of protein a day. As long as you train hard conistantly, you'll keep your muscle and shed bodyfat..

luke69duke69 · 11-13-2005, 01:21 AM

Hey foreman, no disrespect, I have insomnia, but, when do you sleep?

TJ Cline · 11-13-2005, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luke69duke69

Hey foreman, no disrespect, I have insomnia, but, when do you sleep?

I sleep only 5 hours a night....so I'm up late.

LittleBrother · 11-13-2005, 01:24 AM

i was thinking of running cytomel T-3, with my cycle and 2 tablets 25mcg. a day, with 2 days on then one off. Doing this only 4 weeks every 6 months. Would that still screw my body up permanantly?

Also, i've always had a problem with weight gain. I'll diet for months only to lose 20 to 30 pounds, and then watch it come back. I've been a big football player for years until i fucked my knee up. Thats when i got more and more out of space.

Tough Old Man · 11-13-2005, 01:26 AM

i'd say drop this site and have you girl sign in and replace you. Most likely better to look at as long as she is lighter then you.
We are craxy here and really don't care about looks, but the Body of a goddest turns us on. SO SHOW HER TO US. If you don't like my comments this is great as you should go to the diet and nutrition section of this forum.
You'll be welcome with arms wide open there and a new body you shall have

Note: for you who don't like my professional comments....suck a dick

Tough

LittleBrother · 11-13-2005, 01:26 AM

I was going to run Proviron at the very end of the cycle but i keep reading about Nolva and people taking it during.... I've already got some guy tits from the weight, but i really don't want to end up with Bitch Tits.....

TJ Cline · 11-13-2005, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleBrother

i was thinking of running cytomel T-3, with my cycle and 2 tablets 25mcg. a day, with 2 days on then one off. Doing this only 4 weeks every 6 months. Would that still screw my body up permanantly?

Also, i've always had a problem with weight gain. I'll diet for months only to lose 20 to 30 pounds, and then watch it come back. I've been a big football player for years until i fucked my knee up. Thats when i got more and more out of space.

Try a diet

Put on some natural muscle....then in a year or two you might be ready to use steroids.

LittleBrother · 11-13-2005, 01:28 AM

Gotta love roid rage. Me and you should get along well. I'm done with fucking diets. I'm here to get my ass back into Shape. Meaning GAINING some of what i've lost and more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

i'd say drop this site and have you girl sign in and replace you. Most likely better to look at as long as she is lighter then you.
We are craxy here and really don't care about looks, but the Body of a goddest turns us on. SO SHOW HER TO US. If you don't like my comments this is great as you should go to the diet and nutrition section of this forum.
You'll be welcome with arms wide open there and a new body you shall have

Note: for you who don't like my professional comments....suck a dick

Tough

luke69duke69 · 11-13-2005, 01:32 AM

Just curious foreman, I sleep maybe 5-7 hours if I averaged it.

luke69duke69 · 11-13-2005, 01:34 AM

TOM, how's project mayhem going? How many weeks are you in now?

PWGriffin · 11-13-2005, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleBrother

Gotta love roid rage. Me and you should get along well. I'm done with fucking diets. I'm here to get my ass back into Shape. Meaning GAINING some of what i've lost and more.

ok, first off roid rage doesn't really exist....secondly, ur lookin pretty endomorphic in that pic...meaning if you juice and don't diet you will put on some muscle AND a bunch of fat in the process...prolly bloat really bad too, you may even look worse than when you started...but you'll be stronger. Gear isn't some magical shit. 67% of what you look like is what you do outside the gym. If you get strict enough on a diet and exercise program to see real results inside of a couple years...THEN combine that with the right supplements and gear to get the best possible results...If you can't discipline yourself in those two VERY important aspects of ur training then either you will develop a depency on gear to get results quick or you will just quit working out altogether and turn back into a fat ass.

LittleBrother · 11-13-2005, 06:17 AM

Thats one bad pic, yeah, looks like one big fat ass. And yeah, given it looks like i'll be looking like the guy from King of Queens..... But thats the reason i'm starting this. And i'm here to learn. So i don't fuck it up and become bigger. So thank you for your info on bloating factor.

I diet all the time. That pic was when i was the biggest i'd ever been. And i'm not thinking that this is a shoot me in the ass i'll a tone up drug. I know it's going to take alot of work, and i'm going do it, or at least try. I was just hoping that maybe there was a cycle that could start me off losing the weight faster. i'm not trying to be a body builder here! I'm just looking for answers on using something that alot of people keep hush hush.

So what i'm getting from everyone.... Get my ass on another diet and get in the gym? And this is where i'm going to need to have some type of direction..... I may be wrong, but when i start off on my first cycle won't i be doing at that?!

The Roid Rage was a joke. ;}~

Bazooka Tooth · 11-13-2005, 06:21 AM

ehhhh he's a big dude, he has some potential

LittleBrother · 11-13-2005, 07:03 AM

**Pirate!** · 11-13-2005, 09:29 AM

I think you can make rapid gains without doing steroids at this point. I'd wait on it a bit. Small doses of nolva can be used on cycle to prevent gyno, and proviron can be used on cycle for a variety of reasons. Don't use proviron post cycle, though. Good luck.

**Mudge** · 11-13-2005, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleBrother

Gotta love roid rage. Me and you should get along well. I'm done with fucking diets. I'm here to get my ass back into Shape. Meaning GAINING some of what i've lost and more.

Diet = what goes in your mouth. You dont gain or lose, or live without a diet.

musclepump · 11-13-2005, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

i'd say drop this site and have you girl sign in and replace you. Most likely better to look at as long as she is lighter then you.
We are craxy here and really don't care about looks, but the Body of a goddest turns us on. SO SHOW HER TO US. If you don't like my comments this is great as you should go to the diet and nutrition section of this forum.
You'll be welcome with arms wide open there and a new body you shall have

Note: for you who don't like my professional comments....suck a dick

Tough

Does anyone remember the days when Tough used to be nice?

* Legion * · 11-13-2005, 01:45 PM

Don't be frustrated, man. So many people come to this site and post about roids.. so those who know get frustrated answering the same question over and over... roids are a serious thing to consider. Guys like Foreman, Mudge, and Tough are all knowledgable about it, and took the time to FIRST learn about their own bodies and how they respond to PROPER DIET and STRICT and CONSISTANT training for several years BEFORE they considered gear. Be honest with yourself. What is it you want? Its a harder question than it seems. Roids are in the media, and there is a great deal of fallacy, and yet, some truth, to what you hear on the news.
First, find the beast inside you. Go the the gym. Learn about routines, what to do IN the gym to stimulate the hypertrophy and what to do to help burn the fat. Look at you diet. Learn about nutrition. There is nothing wrong with asking questions, friend. Just be certain, especially here, that the first question that you ask is NOT ABOUT STEROIDS. They are only a facet of the totality involved in changing your body. Stick around. Post your questions. There are great people here, aside from the ribbing and the smartass answers. People on this forum like to have fun.
Stay focused. Stay consistant. Forgive yourself when you screw up your diet, or miss a workout, or do not put up the weight on any given day that you thought you would.

Hlanderr · 11-13-2005, 02:36 PM

great post!

kicka19 · 11-13-2005, 02:50 PM

dude u look like a pile of shit, dont bother with roids just get on a good cut and keep your protien up. I doesnt matter if u already lost weight, u need to lose about 20 or 30 more before. Doing gear with as much adipose as you have is asking for gyno

TJ Cline · 11-13-2005, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicka19

dude u look like a pile of shit, dont bother with roids just get on a good cut and keep your protien up. I doesnt matter if u already lost weight, u need to lose about 20 or 30 more before. Doing gear with as much adipose as you have is asking for gyno

now I really cant wait to post my pics

min0 lee · 11-13-2005, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicka19

dude u look like a pile of shit, dont bother with roids just get on a good cut and keep your protien up. I doesnt matter if u already lost weight, u need to lose about 20 or 30 more before. Doing gear with as much adipose as you have is asking for gyno

I do alot of wrong things here but I can never say things like that to a new member or a respected old member.
That's uncalled for, I keep saying there a ways to critisize people without being mean.

min0 lee · 11-13-2005, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

now I really cant wait to post my pics

Don't bother, we already know.

11-13-2005, 12:37 AM	#1
LittleBrother Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 12	Yes, another noob, I'm not asking where to buy I'm just getting into this stuff, and i've got a few questions. I was wondering if running Nolva everyday during the cycle was fine. Also if Proviron after would be good. I'm also looking for a good fat burner, any suggestions would be GREAT! I'm 6'2" 260lbs, and i'm looking get some type of definition. Not cut, but not stuck with this beer gut. Here's a pic just to give you guys some idea of what i look like. HELP! Last edited by LittleBrother : 11-13-2005 at 12:55 AM.

11-13-2005, 12:58 AM	#4
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	1. Without seeing anything, I'd say drop the beer "I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

11-13-2005, 01:17 AM	#8
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	I'm not pickin bro, it's just that was my achilies heel right there. Gear will only do so much, but the ultimate sacrifice is cutting the alcohol out Nolva will block estrogen and block some of the water retention, but it will inhibit some of your strength gains. Running Nolva the whole cycle most of the time is a waste of money, unless you have some to burn for shits and giggles. It's like running HCG the entire time when it's really only useful the tail end of a cycle unless you have a girlfriend who notices your nut shrinkage with a measuring tape. What are you gonna be running? Clem is fine as a fat burner, as well as cytomel but you run the risk of screwing up your body permanantly that way with the cytomel. Just work on cutting calories, keeping your meals spread out evenly, and eat roughly 300grams or more of protein a day. As long as you train hard conistantly, you'll keep your muscle and shed bodyfat.. "I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

11-13-2005, 01:21 AM	#9
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	Hey foreman, no disrespect, I have insomnia, but, when do you sleep? "I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

11-13-2005, 01:32 AM	#16
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	Just curious foreman, I sleep maybe 5-7 hours if I averaged it. "I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

11-13-2005, 12:48 AM	#2
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,545	post the pic Post the cycle you are doing

11-13-2005, 12:56 AM	#3
LittleBrother Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 12	I don't want to be a pain in the ass, but for some reason i keep posting the damned Red X. http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...f/f17b78e1.jpg

11-13-2005, 01:24 AM	#11
LittleBrother Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 12	i was thinking of running cytomel T-3, with my cycle and 2 tablets 25mcg. a day, with 2 days on then one off. Doing this only 4 weeks every 6 months. Would that still screw my body up permanantly? Also, i've always had a problem with weight gain. I'll diet for months only to lose 20 to 30 pounds, and then watch it come back. I've been a big football player for years until i fucked my knee up. Thats when i got more and more out of space.

11-13-2005, 01:26 AM	#12
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	i'd say drop this site and have you girl sign in and replace you. Most likely better to look at as long as she is lighter then you. We are craxy here and really don't care about looks, but the Body of a goddest turns us on. SO SHOW HER TO US. If you don't like my comments this is great as you should go to the diet and nutrition section of this forum. You'll be welcome with arms wide open there and a new body you shall have Note: for you who don't like my professional comments....suck a dick Tough

11-13-2005, 01:34 AM	#17
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	TOM, how's project mayhem going? How many weeks are you in now? "I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

11-13-2005, 06:17 AM	#19
LittleBrother Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 12	Thats one bad pic, yeah, looks like one big fat ass. And yeah, given it looks like i'll be looking like the guy from King of Queens..... But thats the reason i'm starting this. And i'm here to learn. So i don't fuck it up and become bigger. So thank you for your info on bloating factor. I diet all the time. That pic was when i was the biggest i'd ever been. And i'm not thinking that this is a shoot me in the ass i'll a tone up drug. I know it's going to take alot of work, and i'm going do it, or at least try. I was just hoping that maybe there was a cycle that could start me off losing the weight faster. i'm not trying to be a body builder here! I'm just looking for answers on using something that alot of people keep hush hush. So what i'm getting from everyone.... Get my ass on another diet and get in the gym? And this is where i'm going to need to have some type of direction..... I may be wrong, but when i start off on my first cycle won't i be doing at that?! The Roid Rage was a joke. ;}~ www.MySpace.com/NattyKilla

11-13-2005, 06:21 AM	#20
Bazooka Tooth Ohh you touch my tralala. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,716 Photos: 3	ehhhh he's a big dude, he has some potential

11-13-2005, 07:03 AM	#21
LittleBrother Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 12	www.MySpace.com/NattyKilla

11-13-2005, 09:29 AM	#22
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 6,171	I think you can make rapid gains without doing steroids at this point. I'd wait on it a bit. Small doses of nolva can be used on cycle to prevent gyno, and proviron can be used on cycle for a variety of reasons. Don't use proviron post cycle, though. Good luck. My 1-Andro RX Journal

11-13-2005, 01:45 PM	#25
* Legion * Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Suburb of Chicago, Il. USA Posts: 711 Photos: 2	Don't be frustrated, man. So many people come to this site and post about roids.. so those who know get frustrated answering the same question over and over... roids are a serious thing to consider. Guys like Foreman, Mudge, and Tough are all knowledgable about it, and took the time to FIRST learn about their own bodies and how they respond to PROPER DIET and STRICT and CONSISTANT training for several years BEFORE they considered gear. Be honest with yourself. What is it you want? Its a harder question than it seems. Roids are in the media, and there is a great deal of fallacy, and yet, some truth, to what you hear on the news. First, find the beast inside you. Go the the gym. Learn about routines, what to do IN the gym to stimulate the hypertrophy and what to do to help burn the fat. Look at you diet. Learn about nutrition. There is nothing wrong with asking questions, friend. Just be certain, especially here, that the first question that you ask is NOT ABOUT STEROIDS. They are only a facet of the totality involved in changing your body. Stick around. Post your questions. There are great people here, aside from the ribbing and the smartass answers. People on this forum like to have fun. Stay focused. Stay consistant. Forgive yourself when you screw up your diet, or miss a workout, or do not put up the weight on any given day that you thought you would. Do not mistake my kindness for weakness.

11-13-2005, 02:36 PM	#26
Hlanderr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 774	great post!

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