Tha Don

is it okay to use eph and caff whilst on a bit of extra test?

will either eph or caff raise my BP? or stress my heart at all?

thanks

Devlin

Your joking right?
Epherdra and caffine are friggin stimulants which raise your heart rate and your blood pressure. If your blood pressure is already up from the test, why in the hell give yourself a friggin heart attack by taking ephedra or caffine?

By the way, people our age tend to be killed from heart attacks much more easily than older people.

Time to get my life and body back

Time to face the jury (and myself)

Time to bring sexyback

Tha Don

my bad

i heard caffeine was a diuretic, thus lowering water retention and decreasing BP

and you can fuck off with all them heart attack scare tactics, i'm coming off steroids and i'm not doing them again for a long time, so my heart is gonna be just fine in a few weeks thank you!

lnvanry

gococksDJS

I have taken adderall while on test/eq/dbol and adderall is a form of amphetamine hydrochloride. I had a physical, blood work and EKG done and the only problem was my HDL was very low (which was due to my diet). I forget if you're in college or not D, but I would stop by the campus hospital every two weeks or so on my cycle just to get my bp and weight taken. Didn't cost a thing and was quick and easy. You do need to be careful if your bp is already up but if you do use either one, be sure to keep an eye on your bp.

Hlanderr

i am going on a prohormone cycle soon, and I was going to use NO-Xplode before each workout.... i also take the prohormone right before i lift

NO-Xplode if you didnt know is pretty much a pre workout mix, which contains caffeine...

should i use something else?

Tough Old Man

Yes food

Hlanderr

yes..... but seriously..... should i avoid caffeine and a preworkout mix?

i am really close to making my order.... im making it all at once, and preworkout i was going to be taking a scoop or two of NO-Xplode..... with a pro-hormone, is this dangerous?

im going to drinking 1.5 gallons a day if that makes any impact

Hlanderr

very interested in gettin an answer...

should i stay away from NO-Xplode when on a prohormone cycle?
in other words... should i stay away from caffeine and a preworkout mix

gococksDJS

have some patients. We don't live online.

Hlanderr

this is true..... thats why im posting to get it seen again

brogers

Patience? Or are you a doctor?

TrojanMan60563

D,

You can use EC stack on a cycle but what happens is going to depend on your body. If you sensitive to it normally you for sure will be on test. The EC stack will speed your HR up and most likely your BP too.

I used to abuse the stuff and now I can't take it at all or my BP goes WAY up along with my HR. T3 appeals more to me at this point then something that is going to make me jittery.

I've had EKG and ultra sounds of my heart and my heart beats perfect. My left ventricle is a little larger then normal but was told its nothing to worry about. As I've read athletes have some degree of enlarged hearts....damn Lance Armstrong's heart is huge compared to the normal person.

Anyways since your BP is already high I wouldn't suggest taking any stimulant. What I would suggest is spending a little loot for a good BP monitor to use at home. I have one made by Mabis with the larger cuff....and its very accurate when compared to my doctors office. Keeping your BP monitored is a great idea if you are on or off AAS.

brogers

I think lance's heart rate is like 32bpm, which is insane.

Tha Don

thanks for the replies, i will leave the E/C for now, just keeping the diet clean, only drugs i'll be on is nolva and adex for a few weeks to hold this gyno off, i can tell my BP is high as my heart beats are keeping me awake at night, i went to bed about 2am last night, its now 7:41 over here, i just can't sleep... in the 3 weeks i've been on, is there any chance left ventricle hypertrophy may have occured? my BP has been high from pretty much the get go, i just want to drop weight right now, muscle, fat, i don't care, its best for my health, would like to be back into the 170's in a month, i've put on 20lbs already, thats 175lbs to 195lbs in a few short weeks, i think its way too much for my body to handle, i'm concerned about my health

Hlanderr

should i drop my preworkout mix when i go on my cycle, which is NO-Xplode?

I will be on a pro-hormone cycle and the NO-Xplode contains caffeine

Tha Don

IMO you'll be fine, unless you start getting high BP in which case it may help if you drop it, i would be running lipo-6 if it wasn't for my already high BP, as soon as my BP gets down i'll throw the lipo-6 in, i'm not a fan of eph anyway so i doubt i'll run that, certainly not before xmas, it makes me ratty as hell when on it, and i turn into a zombie when i come off, as if pct blues aren't bad enough

Hlanderr

thanks.... i think i will keep it in the cycle