Tough Old Man

Sun the 13th of Nov (about 9 days ago) I started my next cycle. As most know I'm on a year long cycle utilizing 6 weeks on with 3 weeks off and repeating. Ok on that Sun My first injection was 1.5 CC of Cyp and 1.5 cc of Tren A. Shot into the quad like I always do. This was crippling for 5 days with swelling also. I thought it might be my home Tren, but on tues I injected the Tren @ 1.5 cc and had no problems. So wed rolls around and I inject 1.56 cc of cyp in the last glute. Again this has a crippling effect. I continue with the eod shot of tren with no problems. So yesterday Sun rolls around And I inject 1.5 cc of cyp and you guess it, the other quad is crippled.

What I don't understand is that the cyp I brewed myself I used at 1 cc along with 2 cc of EQ for 5 weeks with no problems.

What's up here? Is it I can't handle 1.5 cc of Cyp or did the EQ @ 2 cc's help with the 1 cc of cyp..... If the EQ helped, why didn't the Tren @ 1.5 cc mixed with it help. This is three crippling injections in a roll.

Tell you how bad it was for the first injection, My thigh measured 3" larger within 4-6 hours and stayed that way for almost 5 days.

Mudge

EQ suspends easier than tren so there should be less BA/BB content, is it tren A or E?

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Tough Old Man

Mudge I made both. It's tren A. I used 2% BA in both. I think I used around 10% BB in both. Like I said the Tren is not bothering me at all. Just the cyp at 1.5 cc's. When I did it @ 1 cc with it mixed with 2 cc's of EQ no problem. I'm trying to figure out whether I just can't do 1.5 cc's or not. I wouldn't think there's that much difference between 1 cc and 1.5 cc although I never did the Cyp at 1 cc by itself


PT

ag-guys

I've had huge quad problems after shooting there 1/2 the time, so I tend to not use the site anymore.


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Tough Old Man

I agree a lot of people have quad problems. I'm shooting tren eod in the quads with no problem. Of the three injections with the Cpy, 1 was in the right quad, 1 in the left quad and 1 in the left buttocks. All three have gave me fits. It's not the quads that's the problem, but the cyp 2 1.5 cc's by itself for some reason

Pirate!

Are you sure it is fully suspended and not slightly crystalized?

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Tough Old Man

No it's perfectly fine. Hell I just used it three weeks ago but used it with EQ

tommyboy11

Hey t.o.m why dont u try to rotate sites more often like hittin delts, glutes, maybee ur shootin in the quads too much and thats why ur gettin iritation down there, jus a suggestion.hope it gets better and good luck with ur cycle

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Mudge

It could just be that its time to give those sites a break. I've had that show up with delts and ass shots, where I just couldn't get in a 'good' shot, either I'd bleed or it would be sore for awhile, so I'd have to rotate away from that site(s) for awhile.

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Tough Old Man

You all are probably right. That shot from last Sun has taken it's toll. Yesterday it started to feel a little better and it was leg day which i do hack squats. Well about three hours later it really got bad and landed me in my bed all day and night. I did shoot this one pretty low on the thighmaybe 2-3" above the knee. Now today the knee is even swollen making this a mother fucker.

I must say one thing. I njected the same shit yesterday with an extra cc of oil in the left glute. It did give me a little lump like it always does when shooting there, but no pain. Last week when I shot the glute with just the cyp, I couldn't sit for three days. So the additional oil help. The true test will be this Sun when I shoot the other quad with the added oil. I'll keep you all informmed.

PWGriffin

If he's prolly right then why aren't you taking his advice and trying another site this sunday?? Sounds like u either are very into pain or are a glutton for punishment...

Tough Old Man

Maybe you should have read all my post on this thread. I have tried other site injections. I be god damn though if I'm going to put that shit into a smaller muscle if the bigger one's can't handle it. The day my quads and ass can't handle the shit, I'd really have to be stupid to put it into my delt or calves or where ever else. When your taking a min of 5 shots a week, you run outr of spots to inject if your having problems. An d no I'm not going to stop the use of gear. I will figure out something if I have to take a 1/2 cc and 1 cc of oil in three injections to get 1.5 cc's. There's always a way.

As I said 1 cc didn't bother me with the last one being just three weeks ago, but when I upped the dosage to 1.5 cc's thats when the problem occurred.

PWGriffin

Damn that sux then...maybe just order a bottle of cyp or E instead of ur homebrew just to see how that hits you...

The big guy

Hey PT, Test e does the same to me, especially Qv, the site gets swollen red hot, if its a glute shot, I can't sit, quad walk with a limp, and sore as a m'fer, it will last a few days and go away, in the gym I will bend over to pick up a dumbell and my training partner cracks up because he can see the cheek of my ass it twice the size..usually the extra oil helps, thats what I do if I use T-400, and that shit is no fucking joke..

Tough Old Man

Hey "E" I tried that shit last year (T400) After one injection I threw it in the trash. Fuck that stuff.

Tough Old Man

UPDATE ON THE CYP INJECTIONS


This past Wed I added 1 cc of oil to the 1.5 cc's of test cyp and injected into the left cheek. I happy to state that I had no swelling, lumps or pain what so ever. I think i found the cure. I'm still suffering 7 days later ( but it getting better) from the injection into the left lower quad last sun. The true test with the oil added will be tomorrow (SUN) as I'm going to once again inject 1.5 cc's of the cyp into my quad. If this doesn't work, I'm going to really be in trouble. I have gone 14 straight days with swelling and pain in one quad or the other and don't know if I can handle 7 more.


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The big guy

I definitaly think the extra oil will help, good luck, I don't want to here not so tough shit again..lol, don't get soft and mushy on me bro..lol

Tough Old Man

I guess a big hug is out of the picture. fuck it then I'll get tough again. No more tears on my pillow and because my quad feels so much better today, I'll probably get a good night sleep for a change.

alexvega

like nurse we know that the best place to shhot is the glute , it carry the medication in the best way to the porta system
why do u old t, use the cudriceps
it´s stupit in my opinion.
just a comment

Tough Old Man

Let's see how you react to this. Lets say your injecting test prop @ 100 mgs everyday. So tomorrow is Sun and it is your first injection. You shoot the left glute and within 6 hours you have a lump and it's sore. The next day Monday you inject the right glute and the same thing happens.

Now hold on to that burrito and tell me where your going to inject on Tues?


Tough

alexvega

i think your technique is really bad.
read the prospect and look the place when it say u can shoot.
ut the problem, is the doses , so may short time betwen its .
but the glute is the place, sorry for you.
may be u can try in your trapecious! before eat a burrito.