PCT..... retain

Hlanderr · 11-22-2005, 01:13 PM

Hey,
I'm going to use Rebound XT for my PCT, and they recommend using another one of the products combined with it called Retain. Although this might just be an advertising thing, I have been interested by it.

What it does mainly is control cortisol, where they say is the biggest thing to worry about in PCT (although its probably estrogen). It also has a metabolic agents in it to aid in fat loss in PCT.... but I would mainly be buying it to use with Rebound XT for the cortisol issue.

Anybody think anything of this product and it's affect in PCT? Anybody use it? Or another product to control costisol in PCT? And should I use it for the whole PCT?

Thanks

Stu · 11-22-2005, 01:36 PM

PCT for what, unless its a prohormone your gonna need more than rebound xt

Hlanderr · 11-22-2005, 02:52 PM

it is pro-hormone actually.... what do you think about cortisol issues though? do you think there is a cortisol issue?

ive read how a cycle suppressed cortisol, but then getting off the substance can send you into a laspe.... would you recommend using it?

Stu · 11-22-2005, 04:48 PM

maybe try the supplements forum, i've never really read much into cortisol blockers.

Tough Old Man · 11-22-2005, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hlanderr

Hey,
I'm going to use Rebound XT for my PCT, and they recommend using another one of the products combined with it called Retain. Although this might just be an advertising thing, I have been interested by it.

What it does mainly is control cortisol, where they say is the biggest thing to worry about in PCT (although its probably estrogen). It also has a metabolic agents in it to aid in fat loss in PCT.... but I would mainly be buying it to use with Rebound XT for the cortisol issue.

Anybody think anything of this product and it's affect in PCT? Anybody use it? Or another product to control costisol in PCT? And should I use it for the whole PCT?

Thanks

Only in america can you find a way to spend so much money on shit. Save some money and buy some Nolva and use it for your PCT.

Hlanderr · 11-22-2005, 05:26 PM

so people dont even consider cortisol supplements....

anabolic xtreme claims it to be the biggest reason for muscle loss post cycle.... but i can't say ive seen any thing on this site that regards to wathcing cortisol after a cycle

lnvanry · 11-22-2005, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Only in america can you find a way to spend so much money on shit. Save some money and buy some Nolva and use it for your PCT.

lnvanry · 11-22-2005, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hlanderr

so people dont even consider cortisol supplements....

anabolic xtreme claims it to be the biggest reason for muscle loss post cycle.... but i can't say ive seen any thing on this site that regards to wathcing cortisol after a cycle

well in anabolic Xtreme says so...the you better go buy some

Tough Old Man · 11-22-2005, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lnvanry

well in anabolic Xtreme says so...the you better go buy some

Hey brother why don't you and I package up some nolva powder along with some creatine, cap it and sell it as the best product for PCT. Why steal or work when we can get rich off a bunch off idiots.

Tough

aceshigh · 11-22-2005, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Hey brother why don't you and I package up some nolva powder along with some creatine, cap it and sell it as the best product for PCT. Why steal or work when we can get rich off a bunch off idiots.

Tough

dont steal my business man

Tough Old Man · 11-22-2005, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceshigh

dont steal my business man

Well shit it already had a patent on it. Not to worry, I'll find a different product to add to those caps. You'll be the first one to get a bottle of 300 cap's free. Want to know what the other item is before you induldge in those cap's?

Tough

TrojanMan60563 · 11-22-2005, 09:51 PM

cap up some powdered sugar and sell it as the best PCT on earth....naaa don't do that scammers are assholes and should die....but in reality the supplement companies usually over hype everything they sell.

PWGriffin · 11-22-2005, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hlanderr

so people dont even consider cortisol supplements....

anabolic xtreme claims it to be the biggest reason for muscle loss post cycle.... but i can't say ive seen any thing on this site that regards to wathcing cortisol after a cycle

Sounds like complete and utter bullshit to me...I've always been under the impression that muscle loss occurs when ur body is in a catabolic state due to nonexistent natural test levels and high estrogen levels post cycle...and the faster u get ur test levels back to normal, the more strength and size you retain....but what do I know...

Hlanderr · 11-22-2005, 11:07 PM

no, you could be correct... im leaning away from it pretty much because the only time ive seen cortisol supplements was for fatloss

and thats not a concern right when i finish my cycle....

thanks for replying

ag-guys · 11-23-2005, 05:52 AM

you are running a pro-hormone cycle ? if so, I suggest you watch your estrogen levels very closely.

AG
www.ag-guys.com

TrojanMan60563 · 11-23-2005, 07:34 AM

I've read high cortisol levels can cause muscle loss and make you fat....people raise their cortisol levels from stress and over training. That why some say longer then 45 minutes cardio and you will start doing more damage then good with your body starting to release more cortisol. I think they are refering to high intensity cardio. I personally like walking up an incline to get my cardio done. I don't know about PHs but AAS block the body from the effects of cortisol.

11-22-2005, 01:13 PM	#1
Hlanderr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 774	PCT..... retain Hey, I'm going to use Rebound XT for my PCT, and they recommend using another one of the products combined with it called Retain. Although this might just be an advertising thing, I have been interested by it. What it does mainly is control cortisol, where they say is the biggest thing to worry about in PCT (although its probably estrogen). It also has a metabolic agents in it to aid in fat loss in PCT.... but I would mainly be buying it to use with Rebound XT for the cortisol issue. Anybody think anything of this product and it's affect in PCT? Anybody use it? Or another product to control costisol in PCT? And should I use it for the whole PCT? Thanks Last edited by Hlanderr : 11-22-2005 at 03:27 PM.

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11-22-2005, 01:36 PM	#2
Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	PCT for what, unless its a prohormone your gonna need more than rebound xt

11-22-2005, 02:52 PM	#3
Hlanderr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 774	it is pro-hormone actually.... what do you think about cortisol issues though? do you think there is a cortisol issue? ive read how a cycle suppressed cortisol, but then getting off the substance can send you into a laspe.... would you recommend using it?

11-22-2005, 04:48 PM	#4
Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	maybe try the supplements forum, i've never really read much into cortisol blockers.

11-22-2005, 05:26 PM	#6
Hlanderr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 774	so people dont even consider cortisol supplements.... anabolic xtreme claims it to be the biggest reason for muscle loss post cycle.... but i can't say ive seen any thing on this site that regards to wathcing cortisol after a cycle

11-22-2005, 09:51 PM	#12
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	cap up some powdered sugar and sell it as the best PCT on earth....naaa don't do that scammers are assholes and should die....but in reality the supplement companies usually over hype everything they sell.

11-22-2005, 11:07 PM	#14
Hlanderr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 774	no, you could be correct... im leaning away from it pretty much because the only time ive seen cortisol supplements was for fatloss and thats not a concern right when i finish my cycle.... thanks for replying

11-23-2005, 05:52 AM	#15
ag-guys Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 403	you are running a pro-hormone cycle ? if so, I suggest you watch your estrogen levels very closely. AG www.ag-guys.com

11-23-2005, 07:34 AM	#16
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	I've read high cortisol levels can cause muscle loss and make you fat....people raise their cortisol levels from stress and over training. That why some say longer then 45 minutes cardio and you will start doing more damage then good with your body starting to release more cortisol. I think they are refering to high intensity cardio. I personally like walking up an incline to get my cardio done. I don't know about PHs but AAS block the body from the effects of cortisol.