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Old 11-28-2005, 10:46 PM   #1
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Well the worst has happened, I think I'm infected.

My right delt is red, swollen, hot to the touch, and hurts. So whats the damage assessment? Can I get this taken care of without a doctor?



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Old 11-28-2005, 10:52 PM   #2
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My right delt is red, swollen, hot to the touch, and hurts. So whats the damage assessment? Can I get this taken care of without a doctor?
ouch, a friend of mine used to nurse and said if I ever got an infection, she knew of herbs and other stuff to bring the abcess to the surface and effectively take care of it from there...maybe someone on here knows how to do that and what would be used..
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:11 PM   #3
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If u tell a doctor u take steroids would it be kept confidential?



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Old 11-28-2005, 11:22 PM   #4
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1. How long since you injected?
2. How many cc's did you shoot?
3. What did you shoot?
4. What brand are you shooting?
5. Is this the first time shooting in your delt?
During my current cycle I had three injections get red, swollen, hot to the touch. All three turned out to be either too much gear in one spot, or one that I think I simply shot too close to the tendons. All of them have subsequently healed fine, no abcess or infection. I recently started splitting my shots from 2.5cc's to 1.25(approx) twice a week rather than all of it in one shot and haven't had nearly the pain or soreness. Mostly I'm shooting quads. Glutes tend to give me more problems, and I haven't personally shot delts but I'm told from some of the vets on here that it's better to shoot less there than you would legs or ass.



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I forgot to add that They all took almost 6-8 days after my injection to heal up. The one too close to the tendon took almost two weeks.



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Wow, some good news.

1. I injected on friday and today is monday night
2. I shot 1 cc
3. Shot Sustanon
4. Not sure what brand
5. And I've been shotting in my delt for a few weeks now

I hope I shot to close to the tendon or something, b/c my delt isnt red, the area between my bicep and deltoid is red.



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Old 11-28-2005, 11:42 PM   #7
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That happened to me twice, both times quad shots (once left once right). When it was my left leg it swelled over 2 inches and I almost couldn't get my pants on, or walk. I limped for a good 2 weeks and could not train legs for about 3. Both times my ENTIRE quad and most of my hamstring was purple/red/blue.

Not knowing what brand you have sounds pretty odd man, is there a label?



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I'd hold off on the infection worry. I did that with my first one and started on antibiotics to play it safe, then found out it was just too much gear in one spot, and subsequently wasted the antibiotics. The one near the tendon was the one that got red and swollen the longest. Sometimes you just plain get an irritated shot. As long as you're using a clean pin, and going through your normal sanitary procedures, and your gear isn't dirty, I'd be more likely to suspect that it's just some irritation. Just give the shoulder a rest for a few days and it should subside on it's own.



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Old 11-29-2005, 12:00 AM   #9
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My guy is straight, im not worried about the label. He told me but I forgot the name.

Man, but thats a relief! I guess I'm not out of the fire yet, but ill see how things go.



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same thing happend to a friend of mine too...hes leg became extremely painful.. went away after about 4-5 days...i would suggest trying a different spot.. doubt its infected if you practiced the recommened injection procedures
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:54 AM   #11
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Well I did do it right. I think I might have forgotten to wipe the top of the vial, but other then that I know i did everything else right.



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If it gets soft and mushy then get it checked because most likely and absess is forming but if it says hard probably not just the BA, because I tend to get hard swollen hot lumps from BA's and it does get real sore and takes a couple of days to go away.
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My right delt is red, swollen, hot to the touch, and hurts. So whats the damage assessment? Can I get this taken care of without a doctor?
Have you done the massage and hot compression on the area ?

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I think you'll be fine. Give it a couple more days before you think about amputation of the limb
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I would not inject anything I did not know what it was or who made it. Playing russian roulette. If I was you I would get it tested.



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Why are you using gear at 20?



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If u tell a doctor u take steroids would it be kept confidential?
The doc can not tell anyone like law enforcement, etc but he can report it in your file. If your insurance company finds out they can deny you coverage for certain things. This is pure speculations on my part, I read many people "claim" this but do not know anyone that has actually been denied coverage for anything.
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sticking sust anywhere in your arms is asking for pain tbh.

a friend of mine put 1.5ml in each bicep and couldnt move his arms for a week.
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I'll try the message and hot compression tonight.



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Why are you using gear at 20?
he's 6'3" why not?
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he's 6'3" why not?
What does height have to do with it? If closing growth plates is the only side effect you think there is related to steroid use too early, I certainly hope you're staying away from them because you're sorely mistaken.



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What does height have to do with it? If closing growth plates is the only side effect you think there is related to steroid use too early, I certainly hope you're staying away from them because you're sorely mistaken.
Closing of growth plates is the only side effect definitively linked with steroid use at an early age. Enlighten me.
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Closing of growth plates is the only side effect definitively linked with steroid use at an early age. Enlighten me.
So if a 13 year old is 6'5" it would be ok for him to use anabolics? What about his endocrine system? His natural testosterone levels haven't even peaked yet, so why would you want to shut down your HPTA with exogenous hormones?
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So if a 13 year old is 6'5" it would be ok for him to use anabolics? What about his endocrine system? His natural testosterone levels haven't even peaked yet, so why would you want to shut down your HPTA with exogenous hormones?
We're talking about a 20 year old here, I should have specified, but let's address the situation at hand, not ridiculous hypotheticals.

The only problems I forsee are growth plate closure and the fact that his brain is not fully developed (until 25?) but I have never heard of any problems regarding brain development.
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We're talking about a 20 year old here, I should have specified, but let's address the situation at hand, not ridiculous hypotheticals.

The only problems I forsee are growth plate closure and the fact that his brain is not fully developed (until 25?) but I have never heard of any problems regarding brain development.
Science has shown that external administration of hormones in children and adolescents, up to age 23, can cause permanent alterations in the function of brain chemicals in adults and lead to severe depression and fluctuations in the ability to process certain emotions. Oddly enough, they have shown that these same changes, which can't be undone, can also occur with the use of anti-depressants and medicines for ADD and ADHD. Go figure.



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Science has shown that external administration of hormones in children and adolescents, up to age 23, can cause permanent alterations in the function of brain chemicals in adults and lead to severe depression and fluctuations in the ability to process certain emotions. Oddly enough, they have shown that these same changes, which can't be undone, can also occur with the use of anti-depressants and medicines for ADD and ADHD. Go figure.
Damn, I did not know all that...If you start a late age...(I'm 22 in a month) are you less likely to see these kinda sides? And what are some of chances of this happening to a person?? Like 1 in a 100 or a 1000?? A guy I know is getting ready for a show, younger than me...is doin 750mgs a week test E, 400mgs deca, and anadrol....going for a 500lb bench next week, I shit you not...
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Well its no longer red, but the swollen part is hard as a rock. Dont know what that means...and why argue about doing something when it's already done?



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