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Old 11-29-2005, 02:28 AM   #1
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gear color?

So I took my first tren/prop dose....I was suprised to see the liquid was completely clear and watery, as opposed the typical yellowish/oily mixtures I've seen in the past.

The injection kind of burned on the way in...I was told by my supplier that it was b/c of the BA content in home cooked tren. I am mildly concerned.

an experienced thoughts?....LAM, DG, Tough?
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:03 AM   #2
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What type of oil did your source use? BA will dillute the color, but my tren is far from clear.



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I make my own tren all the time and its never been watery or clear its always yellow and oily and thats tren A or tren E..
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So I took my first tren/prop dose....I was suprised to see the liquid was completely clear and watery, as opposed the typical yellowish/oily mixtures I've seen in the past.

The injection kind of burned on the way in...I was told by my supplier that it was b/c of the BA content in home cooked tren. I am mildly concerned.

an experienced thoughts?....LAM, DG, Tough?
It's possible to have clearer colors.

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Old 11-29-2005, 10:30 AM   #5
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I also make my own. If the oil used is grapessed, then it will be real light in color. If they used something like ses oil then it will be darker. I have two 50 ml vials here I made. One with grape and the other w/ ses. One is dark and one is real light
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So I took my first tren/prop dose....I was suprised to see the liquid was completely clear and watery, as opposed the typical yellowish/oily mixtures I've seen in the past.

The injection kind of burned on the way in...I was told by my supplier that it was b/c of the BA content in home cooked tren. I am mildly concerned.

an experienced thoughts?....LAM, DG, Tough?
Oil based gear should not have the viscosity of water. The BA amount shouldn't make it watery either because it's more than a 10:1 ratio of oil to BA from the homebrew recipes ive seen.
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:41 PM   #7
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Is it possible that I have some other cutting type gear that is sold as tren..like maybe win or EQ?...All I know it that its clear and definitely NOT oily.

I haven't decided whether or not to just start my PCT now or if I should run this stuff. I am pretty sure I got fucked...I bought all my test E thorugh this guy and it had been working great, so I don't understand the inconsistency...Is there some other types of gear that are cheaper that could pose the same effects as tren/prop?.

I AM FUCKING THROUGH W/ THIS SUPPLIER
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:47 PM   #8
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None of my gear was manufacturer made....homemade label and all....stupid move on my part
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:48 PM   #9
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does anyone know what odor tren/prop has if any...mine smells...weird

I am not going to take anymore after that first dose yesterday. I am going to accept it as a loss. I'm going to be sure that everyone else at my gym (gear users) knows about this fucker too. A few other guys have heard about some of my old suppliers moves and they said this wouldn't have been the first.

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Old 11-29-2005, 07:52 PM   #10
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have you tried drawing out a few ml's and putting it in a small glass of water or something to see if it beads up (which oil does) or not? The EQ ive used in the past was homebrewed and had a yellow tint. I have read about guys making water based prop using poly, BA, and bac water, but I would think your supplier would inform you that it was water based.
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Have you tried to contact your source to discuss the problem? If this guy sources on the boards, and is scamming, you need to get the word out. If you're a member on any boards that he sources on, PM a mod or the admin and talk about posting his info. If you're not on any other boards PM me his contact info and i'll try to see if I can dig any info up on him.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:29 PM   #12
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I've contacted him...he seemed a little empathic about the situation and he has never served me worng before, but I have heard "rumors". Clearly the stuff I have ins't what I ordered....mutually agreed. He moves large quantities and obviously doens't run everything he gets his hands on.

Since It wasn't malicious and he's a pro, I feel wrong posting his name to anyone (he could lose his card or at least damage his career)...He's still a fucker for not giving me some type of compensation, so I am simply telling the close BB community here and letting people know that they should think twice...'

A couple other amatuers at my Gold's stay away from him and his ops (unfortuantely almost the entire BB community here runs through him one way or another)...I guess I will be part of those amatuers now.
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Regardless of who he is, if he's a scammer, his name needs to be out in the open because he'll continue to scam honest bros until the whole community knows who he is. Take Doom for example, that bastard scammed until basically everyone on the boards knew his IP address by heart and his famous "Fuck you in advance" line.
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Going to have to agree. If he's doing bad business, put his name out there. Doesn't matter who he is, a pro, amateur, the Pope; his status doesn't change his business practice.



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Going to have to agree. If he's doing bad business, put his name out there. Doesn't matter who he is, a pro, amateur, the Pope; his status doesn't change his business practice.
IMO it's worse that he's a pro because guys new to the game will automatically think "I can use the same gear that a pro uses!!". They think they can trust someone simply because they are a known name in bb or on the boards, like Dave Palumbo, whos scammin ass sold fake GH. Just look at the whole DocFeelsGood, liquid, Jet Li situation. The two of them got away with thousands simply because of their status on the boards. If there is one example of why scammers need to be outed big time it's Apeman. He's scammed on every board under several names, and when he started running low on cash, rather than get a job, he scammed under a new name. He would even register new names and taunt people about how he scammed them. Even though he's a piece of shit scammer, it's funny how brazen he is.
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Regardless of who he is, if he's a scammer, his name needs to be out in the open because he'll continue to scam honest bros until the whole community knows who he is. Take Doom for example, that bastard scammed until basically everyone on the boards knew his IP address by heart and his famous "Fuck you in advance" line.
How come I can't edit my old posts? Apeman said FYIA, not Doom. They aren't the same person.
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