TJ Cline

My last cycle ended 10/22, I ran 400mg test and 600 Deca for 8 weeks.
Lost 15Lbs of fat and gained 14Lbs of muscle......and got Deca dick

This next cycle I was thinking about running the amounts higher, and using EQ instead of deca....opinions will be appreciated.

1-10 750mg Test Cyp
1-9 600mg EQ
1-11 20mg Nolvadex......this dose of test will be a problem with gyno, need options to combat it....Arimidex???

PCT
60/40/40/20


I will begin my next cycle Jan 7th

Tough Old Man

Run the EQ 1-10. also you seem to make good gains with little gear. Most of us 600 mg/ eq wouldn't be enough. you could also kick in the butt quicker by using some prop at the beginning of your cycle

weeks
1-2 Prop
1-10 Test
1-10 EQ
PCT

TJ Cline

so I dont have to worry about EQ like I would Deca when it comes to dose and stopping it earlyer than test???

So I could run 800-1000mg EQ with 500mg Test and that would be ok??

gococksDJS

I ran 600mg EQ for 11 weeks on my last cycle and ill run at least 800mg next time I use it.

TJ Cline

What do you think about throwing in tren 1cc EOD ??
something like this
1-10 Test Cyo 250mg every 3 days
1-9 EQ 600mg
1-9 Tren 1cc EOD
1-3 D-bol 30mg ED

PWGriffin

wouldn't that much tren AND dbol flare up that gyno for sure???

yeah, that shit!!!

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TJ Cline

Tren dosent give you gyno, the test and D-bol might..
The d-bol is just an idea, I probably wont use it

PWGriffin

what about a weak oral like Tbol?

yeah, that shit!!!

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TJ Cline

Don't know shit about t-bol, I was just thinking about a jump start for this cycle....not sure if Anavar or T-bol would do anything for only a 3-4 week jump, or if they are gyno friendly.

Pirate!

Var wouldn't be the best for a jumpstart. Tbol is "gyno friendly", and would be a good option at 25 mg twice daily for the first 5 weeks. EQ takes a long time to clear your system but isn't as suppressive as Deca. I recommend this:

1-5 Tbol 50 mg/day
1-12 Test E 600-750
1-10 EQ 700
3-13 Arimidex .25 mg ED

I'd do HCG on cycle and save the nolva for pct. You won't get gyno using adex when Test is your only aromatizable gear.

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Tha Don

i like the look of that pirate, although if it was me i'd go with a lower dose of test (as i'm super gyno-prone), but the tbol and eq over the test base should make for a very nice cycle

Pirate!

Consider the difference in body mass, though.

Tha Don

true, i probably should go with a higher dose now that you mention it, considering my impressive stats n' all

TJ Cline

Thanks Pirate..

I know with Deac they say run it lower than Test, but is it of to run EQ higher???
Like 800mg EQ with 500MG Test???

Tough Old Man

That's a kick ass cycle and yes to the higher EQ then Test. My last 6 weeker was 500 Test and 800 EQ. My third I will probably lower the Test to 250 mgs and up the Eq to 1 gram. The lower test dosage will help keep the blood pressure down

luke69duke69

Foreman, what's your height/weight roughly now?

"I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

TJ Cline

6'1'' 233 as of yesterday, wasit is 34....down from 36.5 from about 11 weeks ago.

TJ Cline

So it's ok to run tren for 9 weeks??
or should I run it week 3-9?

Tough Old Man

Like this would work.

1-10 Test @ 583mgs / ew.....250 E3D
1-9 EQ @ 600
5-10 Tren A @ 350 mgs / ew....1 cc Eod
D-bol 1-4 @ 25-30 mgs / ED
11 and 12 Test Prop 100 - 150 EOD

I think the above is perfect cycle and you can start PCT 4-7 days after the last prop injection. I believe this holds better gains

redspy

I would add 50mg of Proviron ED to the above cycle during weeks 5-10. Although you have a good base of test Tren and EQ are highly supressive and reduce libido in many people. Proviron is a good backup to have on hand. HCG is also recommended, at least for the last few weeks

Pirate!

You can't do EOD and E3D shots at the same time without taking a shot almost everyday. It is better to just do EOD, even with the long ester test. D-bol leads to estrodiol, which is no good. Aromasin significantly reduces conversion to estrodiol. I;d consider using aromasin if you chose to use dbol. It will prevent gyno, as well.

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Tough Old Man

Do you realize that doing a shot e3d vs. twice a week only gives you about 1 extra shot ever 28 days. Think about how many people including me shot Tren EoD and Test 2 x a week. I see no biggy. As for the D-bol, sure it cause estrodiol but that's the price over half the bodybuilders who probably use D-bol sacrifice for that strong ass kick start. No one here is asking foreman to use 50mgs + ed of D-bol. But at a small dose of 25 mgs ED along with the nolva and Arimidex he is planning on using throughout the cycle, I see no problems with the D-BOL

Pirate!

Closer to 4, actually.

If you do E3D and EOD shots, this is how it works out for 2 weeks:

Day
1 shot of EOD and E3D stuff
2
3 shot of EOD stuff
4 shot of E3D stuff
5 shot of EOD stuff
6
7 shot of EOD and E3D
8
9 shot of EOD stuff
10 shot of E3D stuff
11 shot of EOD stuff
12
13 shot of EOD and E3D stuff
14

That is 9 shots in 14 days. So, it would be better to just do every other day, as opposed to E3D and EOD as you proposed. EOD only would only be 7 shots.

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TJ Cline

In case anyone was wondering about my opinions on EOD ......fuck that!!!!
2x a week is all I will do..........shots are fun but eod after a few weeks is just brutal

The only time I will do eod is when I use tren///////and that will be probably the cycle after this one

TJ Cline

Ok this is the modified version..


1-10 test cyp 500mg ( 250mg 2x a week)
1-9 EQ 800mg ( 400mg 2x a week)
1-11 Arimidex at .25mg or as needed for gyno

PCT
40/40/40/20

Tough Old Man

sorry Pirate that's not what i was getting at. Foreman planned on doing his Test e 3 d. So i greed because doing the test every 3 days vs. 2 a week only results in about 1 extra injection every 28 days. So to me that was no biggy. Sure you have more injections when you add a fast acting anabolic like Tren a or Prop. and do that EOD plus if you decide to do your test 2 x week or E3 d.

brogers

has anyone used Test susp? I know it has to be shot 2x a day, but I'm curious as to what people think of injecting that 2x a day through a slin pin vs injecting prop eod with a 25/23g.

TJ Cline

I never used it but my cousen loves the shit, he says nothing makes you stronger than suspension...

Tough Old Man

Big guy uses it and i have a feeling it is his favorite. Remember it is the strongest of all testosterones

Tough Old Man

looks very safe. i guess this means your going to lose another 15 lbs of fat and gain another 14 lbs of muscle. I guess with the new measurements after this cycle, you be going pro.

Someone ban this fool