Thread: Heavy power cycle

mmmmmmmmmm, anadrol, I miss you.

IMO you would be better off doing only Arimidex during the cycle at .5-1mg ED rather then running a lower dose of it and adding in the Nolvadex. I don't see the benefits to running them both at the same time.

I hope you plan on using some HCG towards then end of your cycle.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

IMO you would be better off doing only Arimidex during the cycle at .5-1mg ED rather then running a lower dose of it and adding in the Nolvadex. I don't see the benefits to running them both at the same time.

I hope you plan on using some HCG towards then end of your cycle.

Why not both....?
Yes I will hit HCG 6-13 at 500 2x a week

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Why not both....?
Yes I will hit HCG 6-13 at 500 2x a week

Stare-oids are bad.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Stare-oids are bad.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Why not both....?
Yes I will hit HCG 6-13 at 500 2x a week

It doesn't make sense to use both. They work different ways...Nolvadex blocks the estrogen receptor sites so when the steroids aromatize the estrogen is blocked...so estrogen sides are minimized. If I am not mistaken the Arimidex is going to stop the steroids from aromatizing all together. You do want some estrogen in your body..you just don't want more then you need. I think studies have shown Arimidex to be more effective....so thats why I would pick running Arimidex during the cycle...and if you want to run Nolvadex after the cycle for PCT then great...or maybe save it for gyno issues, but assuming you have the Arimidex dose correct you shouldn't get gyno. I am not 100% sure I worded this correctly so I hope it makes sense.

Speaking of PCT have you ever used clomid? I have not but want to try it next time I get around to a cycle. I want to do 50mg for 2 weeks. What I read says its more effective at getting natural test levels back up faster compared to Nolvadex.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

It doesn't make sense to use both. They work different ways...Nolvadex blocks the estrogen receptor sites so when the steroids aromatize the estrogen is blocked...so estrogen sides are minimized. If I am not mistaken the Arimidex is going to stop the steroids from aromatizing all together. You do want some estrogen in your body..you just don't want more then you need. I think studies have shown Arimidex to be more effective....so thats why I would pick running Arimidex during the cycle...and if you want to run Nolvadex after the cycle for PCT then great...or maybe save it for gyno issues, but assuming you have the Arimidex dose correct you shouldn't get gyno. I am not 100% sure I worded this correctly so I hope it makes sense.

Speaking of PCT have you ever used clomid? I have not but want to try it next time I get around to a cycle. I want to do 50mg for 2 weeks. What I read says its more effective at getting natural test levels back up faster compared to Nolvadex.

All my cycles from 1999-2002 I ran clomid only.....might get some and do it again.....Think I did it 150/100/50/50.....but not sure.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

All my cycles from 1999-2002 I ran clomid only.....might get some and do it again.....Think I did it 150/100/50/50.....but not sure.

I have read 50mg for 2 weeks is a good dose....I know people tend to run it more like you mentioned, but these people also complain about the horrible sides. I think Mudge doesn't use Clomid anymore due to the sides he gets. I don't recall his doses of it though. At 50mg its supposed to be pretty user friendly and effective. Just a thought. If and when I do another cycle my PCT is going to look like

1-2 Clomid 50mg ED
1-4 Nolvadex 20mg ED

Move the anadrol to the beginning of the cycle and finish with D-bol

I'd drop the Deca and go with Tren E, like this:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

1-12 Test 1000mg
1-11 EQ 800mg
9-12 Anadrol 150mg ED
1-11 Tren E 500mg

1-13 Nolva 20mg ED
1-13 Arimidex .25 ED

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Move the anadrol to the beginning of the cycle and finish with D-bol

Dude this cycle is crazy enough without me adding another oral steroid to it
I do hope to live after it's over you know.

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I'd drop the Deca and go with Tren E, like this:

I just thought the 300mg Deca might be good for the joints with all the heavy lifting...

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I just thought the 300mg Deca might be good for the joints with all the heavy lifting...

With all that test and drol the deca is really going to make you hold an ocean of water....you probably going to need 1mg arimidex per day to keep that bloat down. I would monitor your BP daily on a cycle like that...and if the AI or Nolvadex (or whet ever you end up taking) does not keep the bloat down I would have some water pills on hand. I know everyone is different but on test and deca I retained a shit load of water.

With my last pct, I ran Clomid @ 100mg/day with Nolva @ 40mg/day for Weeks 1-4, then Nolva @ 20mg/day for weeks 5 & 6. I was definately getting the vision tracers by week 4 from the Clomid, but that was the best damn recovery I have ever had.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I just thought the 300mg Deca might be good for the joints with all the heavy lifting...

It might make things feel smoother, but I would still you a strength drug in it's place and just be very careful about avoiding injury.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Ok I plan to do 3 more cycles and then if Im still in one piece do a Raw bench comp in early Feb 2007...
By the time of this cycle I will be 255+ at 11-13% Bodyfat

This is one idea of the last cycle in the series.

1-12 Test 1000mg
1-11 EQ 800mg
6-12 Tren 2cc EOD
9-12 Anadrol 150mg ED
1-11 Deca 300mg

1-13 Nolva 20mg ED
1-13 Arimidex .25 ED


The entire goal is to be at full power in weeks 11-13.

how about .5 mgs arimidex ED? Sounds like a positive way to go with 1000mg of testosterone.

AG
www.ag-guys.com

Originally Posted by ag-guys

how about .5 mgs arimidex ED? Sounds like a positive way to go with 1000mg of testosterone.

AG
www.ag-guys.com

I'm going to order a few from you guys next week