how to cycle d bol alone

lilman · 04-05-2002, 07:58 AM

hey i know sumone with acess to d bol but how is a good way to cycle d bol with nothing else? also what side affects can i expect if any?

Rusty · 04-05-2002, 08:03 AM

Read This

lilman · 04-05-2002, 09:22 AM

how do u think sust. would work with it?

ActionMatt · 04-11-2002, 07:06 PM

I heard that Naposims and Bionobol are the best. Is this true?

Robboe · 04-11-2002, 07:08 PM

You thinking of doing a cycle matt?

Hey, is it better to split dbols throughout the day or just take one at once?

gopro · 04-11-2002, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
You thinking of doing a cycle matt?

Hey, is it better to split dbols throughout the day or just take one at once?

This is actually a good question. One that is debated quite a bit. There are two schools of thought...wanna know?

Robboe · 04-11-2002, 07:30 PM

Sure.

fire away.

Robboe · 04-11-2002, 07:31 PM

Is it due to liver toxicity and half life?

gopro · 04-11-2002, 07:45 PM

Well, it really has to do with half life. By splitting your dosages throughout the day you will get a more constant blood level and better results...but by taking it all at once you will not disturb the hypothalamic/pituitary axis as much, and will not lower your natural test levels as much.

Robboe · 04-11-2002, 07:47 PM

How does taking a larger dose at once have less of an immediate effect than smaller doses over time?

gopro · 04-11-2002, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
How does taking a larger dose at once have less of an immediate effect than smaller doses over time?

Not sure what you mean?

Robboe · 04-11-2002, 07:53 PM

well you said that taking it at once doesn't lower test levels as much (and i assumed you meant as much as you would if you split the dose).

gopro · 04-11-2002, 09:09 PM

Correct...studies have shown that a large single dose in the morning has little to no effect on leutenizing hormone or testosterone, while multiple doses throughout the day has a great effect.

Robboe · 04-12-2002, 07:29 AM

Ah...so LH and test seem to be affected more from sustained release of drugs (or at least dbols). I see now.

gopro · 04-12-2002, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Ah...so LH and test seem to be affected more from sustained release of drugs (or at least dbols). I see now.

That is correct sir!

Want Mass · 04-12-2002, 08:36 PM

Its really a matter of choice.....
It (D-Bol), has a half life of about 4 hours give or take......
Read this months MuscleMag International, they have a good article in there on just this Question....

gopro · 04-12-2002, 09:25 PM

That is pretty funny Want Mass...the article said basically the same thing that I did!

rg1977 · 06-06-2004, 02:24 PM

Is there anything i can take to avoid baldness from taking d-bol Propecia

**Mudge** · 06-06-2004, 02:42 PM

Maybe Dale Mabry will pass through since he has done some research on baldness drugs. I dont have that problem so I dont know about the stuff.

Advodart, propecia, finasteride - there are all kinds of things out there some that work better with certain compounds than others yada yada. If he doesn't come through in a couple days I can try and dig something up (by searching just like you would be doing).

Michael D · 06-09-2004, 11:53 PM

I get nothing when I click on the "read this" link posted by Rusty. Is it working for you guys?

**Mudge** · 06-10-2004, 01:28 AM

Thats one issue with old ass posts on upgraded boards. It was a topic on this board so you could find it via searching I spose.

I think oral only is stupid, but thats JMO. If you can't stick then stay with the damn legals and stay away from "drugs."

Michael D · 06-10-2004, 08:13 PM

My buddy was very impressed with his 200 Naps over the course of a little over 4 weeks. I guess he was around the 35mg a dose day. He put on a lot of pounds and his strength went up from around 470-480 to 500-510 on the bench. He has been off for about a month now with no loss of strength. He won't shoot so I guess it is better to buy some real orals instead of paying more for less with the legal stuff.

gopro · 06-11-2004, 09:29 AM

Guys that use steroids are always so adament when they say..."If you are too much of whimp to stick yourself, then you shouldn't be using steroids..." (NO OFFENSE MUDGE

)

I don't know why they say this. Yes, its "healthier" to use injectables over orals for sure, but there are simply some people out there that are very fearful of needles or just don't want to go that route. If they want to use all orals and are willing to deal with the extra health risk I see nothing wrong with it really. I know many guys that ONLY run oral cycles and they do quite well...some on the National level bodybuilding scene.

I know that I personally HATE needles....despise them and don't even want to look at them!! However, if I were ever to cross over to the illegal side of things (doubtful as I'm already 35 and have been natural this long), I would "get over it" for health reasons. However, site injecting would be OUT OF THE QUESTION!! How do guys do this sh%t?? LOL.

**dg806** · 06-11-2004, 01:45 PM

[quote=gopro]I know that I personally HATE needles....despise them and don't even want to look at them!! [quote]

Whimp!!!!!!!!!

gopro · 06-11-2004, 02:35 PM

[quote=dg806][quote=gopro]I know that I personally HATE needles....despise them and don't even want to look at them!!

Quote:

Whimp!!!!!!!!!

GP is about to go on a little "field trip!"

**dg806** · 06-11-2004, 02:39 PM

Come on Up! Bring me some goodies while you're at it...............................
You like you're steak Med Rare?

gopro · 06-11-2004, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg806

Come on Up! Bring me some goodies while you're at it...............................
You like you're steak Med Rare?

You called me a whimp so I'm coming for your hide!! But after I'm done with ya we can sit down for a steak and some VPX handouts. I like mine medium well though...the steak, not the VPX stuff...

LAM · 06-11-2004, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

Correct...studies have shown that a large single dose in the morning has little to no effect on leutenizing hormone or testosterone, while multiple doses throughout the day has a great effect.

wouldn't it also seem that a decent insulin spike in the AM would go good with this protocol since elevated serum insulin levels reduce SHBG ?

gopro · 06-11-2004, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAM

wouldn't it also seem that a decent insulin spike in the AM would go good with this protocol since elevated serum insulin levels reduce SHBG ?

Wow, that came out of nowhere! I must have wrote that over a year ago! But yes, that would seem to make sense!

**Mudge** · 06-12-2004, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

Guys that use steroids are always so adament when they say..."If you are too much of whimp to stick yourself, then you shouldn't be using steroids..." (NO OFFENSE MUDGE

)

I think if someone is going to go HALF WAY then they would be better off not even knowing the substances existed. Stay legal, dont ever have to worry about health issues, getting busted, all that stuff. I dont see someone popping pills and nothing more generally speaking, having blood pressure meters at home, getting blood work done, etc etc

If you aren't looking for serious gains (eventually reaching a point where you stay on 9 months out of the year) then you can forget orals IMO. I believe in either all the way or not at all, I dont compromise well.

Why take all the risks when you wont have much of the gains to show for it, if you want to look like Brad Pitt then go find something else.

04-05-2002, 07:58 AM	#1
lilman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: ny Posts: 36	how to cycle d bol alone hey i know sumone with acess to d bol but how is a good way to cycle d bol with nothing else? also what side affects can i expect if any?

04-05-2002, 08:03 AM	#2
Rusty FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my Harley Posts: 4,469 Photos: 3	Read This ~RUSTY~

04-11-2002, 07:08 PM	#5
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	You thinking of doing a cycle matt? Hey, is it better to split dbols throughout the day or just take one at once? Being held down by The Man

04-11-2002, 07:30 PM	#7
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Sure. fire away. Being held down by The Man

04-11-2002, 07:31 PM	#8
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Is it due to liver toxicity and half life? Being held down by The Man

04-05-2002, 09:22 AM	#3
lilman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: ny Posts: 36	how do u think sust. would work with it?

04-11-2002, 07:06 PM	#4
ActionMatt Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Here Posts: 127	I heard that Naposims and Bionobol are the best. Is this true?

04-11-2002, 07:45 PM	#9
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	Well, it really has to do with half life. By splitting your dosages throughout the day you will get a more constant blood level and better results...but by taking it all at once you will not disturb the hypothalamic/pituitary axis as much, and will not lower your natural test levels as much. All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

04-11-2002, 07:47 PM	#10
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	How does taking a larger dose at once have less of an immediate effect than smaller doses over time? Being held down by The Man

04-11-2002, 07:53 PM	#12
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	well you said that taking it at once doesn't lower test levels as much (and i assumed you meant as much as you would if you split the dose). Being held down by The Man

04-11-2002, 09:09 PM	#13
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	Correct...studies have shown that a large single dose in the morning has little to no effect on leutenizing hormone or testosterone, while multiple doses throughout the day has a great effect. All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

04-12-2002, 07:29 AM	#14
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Ah...so LH and test seem to be affected more from sustained release of drugs (or at least dbols). I see now. Being held down by The Man

04-12-2002, 08:36 PM	#16
Want Mass Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Orleans Area Posts: 10	Its really a matter of choice..... It (D-Bol), has a half life of about 4 hours give or take...... Read this months MuscleMag International, they have a good article in there on just this Question....

04-12-2002, 09:25 PM	#17
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	That is pretty funny Want Mass...the article said basically the same thing that I did! All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

06-06-2004, 02:24 PM	#18
rg1977 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2	Is there anything i can take to avoid baldness from taking d-bol Propecia

06-06-2004, 02:42 PM	#19
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Maybe Dale Mabry will pass through since he has done some research on baldness drugs. I dont have that problem so I dont know about the stuff. Advodart, propecia, finasteride - there are all kinds of things out there some that work better with certain compounds than others yada yada. If he doesn't come through in a couple days I can try and dig something up (by searching just like you would be doing).

06-09-2004, 11:53 PM	#20
Michael D Working on a new me! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: East Coast US Posts: 393 Photos: 4	I get nothing when I click on the "read this" link posted by Rusty. Is it working for you guys? "Fear profits man nothing."

06-10-2004, 01:28 AM	#21
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Thats one issue with old ass posts on upgraded boards. It was a topic on this board so you could find it via searching I spose. I think oral only is stupid, but thats JMO. If you can't stick then stay with the damn legals and stay away from "drugs."

06-10-2004, 08:13 PM	#22
Michael D Working on a new me! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: East Coast US Posts: 393 Photos: 4	My buddy was very impressed with his 200 Naps over the course of a little over 4 weeks. I guess he was around the 35mg a dose day. He put on a lot of pounds and his strength went up from around 470-480 to 500-510 on the bench. He has been off for about a month now with no loss of strength. He won't shoot so I guess it is better to buy some real orals instead of paying more for less with the legal stuff. "Fear profits man nothing."

06-11-2004, 09:29 AM	#23
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	Guys that use steroids are always so adament when they say..."If you are too much of whimp to stick yourself, then you shouldn't be using steroids..." (NO OFFENSE MUDGE ) I don't know why they say this. Yes, its "healthier" to use injectables over orals for sure, but there are simply some people out there that are very fearful of needles or just don't want to go that route. If they want to use all orals and are willing to deal with the extra health risk I see nothing wrong with it really. I know many guys that ONLY run oral cycles and they do quite well...some on the National level bodybuilding scene. I know that I personally HATE needles....despise them and don't even want to look at them!! However, if I were ever to cross over to the illegal side of things (doubtful as I'm already 35 and have been natural this long), I would "get over it" for health reasons. However, site injecting would be OUT OF THE QUESTION!! How do guys do this sh%t?? LOL. All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

06-11-2004, 01:45 PM	#24
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	[quote=gopro]I know that I personally HATE needles....despise them and don't even want to look at them!! [quote] Whimp!!!!!!!!! 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

06-11-2004, 02:39 PM	#26
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	Come on Up! Bring me some goodies while you're at it............................... You like you're steak Med Rare? 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

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