Speed cycle

**bball** · 01-02-2006, 06:08 PM

Anyone know a cycle to build speed....

**TJ Cline** · 01-02-2006, 06:21 PM

Not unless you are almost pro level already.

**Mudge** · 01-02-2006, 07:37 PM

Speed is achieved through training.

**kicka19** · 01-02-2006, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Mudge

Speed is achieved through training.

mostly genertics, u opend a can of worms with that comment, i think speed can slightly be inproved on from training, but not drasticly, if your fast your born that way

**SuperFlex** · 01-02-2006, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by bball

Anyone know a cycle to build speed....

www.jumpusa.com You will see huge gains... Not a cycle and you're not clear on what kind of speed you're looking for but these work. Plain and simple...

**TJ Cline** · 01-02-2006, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by kicka19

mostly genertics, u opend a can of worms with that comment, i think speed can slightly be inproved on from training, but not drasticly, if your fast your born that way

True story

**SuperFlex** · 01-02-2006, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

True story

I've seen people get fast...

**TJ Cline** · 01-02-2006, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

I've seen people get fast...

nope

**SuperFlex** · 01-02-2006, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

nope

I am so that's all that really matters anyway...

**TJ Cline** · 01-02-2006, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

I am so that's all that really matters anyway...

you are born fast or not.....end of story!

**Mudge** · 01-02-2006, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by kicka19

mostly genertics, u opend a can of worms with that comment, i think speed can slightly be inproved on from training, but not drasticly, if your fast your born that way

Partially true, but even looking at football for example you have guys going from a 5 second bench press to barely over a second with MORE weight.

You can train for it.

I'm not saying a 400 pound sloth is going to become a 100m record holder, but to say that you can't improve is bullshit.

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 01-03-2006, 12:43 AM

true. I mean say you have a guy that is naturally big with fat. born big and big all his life. he then starts training and works out then gets faster as the pounds drop. i mean seriously which i easier to run 100m with just you, or go military and do it with your bud on your back.

**topolo** · 01-03-2006, 01:01 AM

Regarding a cycle of speed:

I usually run it about 4-6 weeks followed by proper pct

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 01-03-2006, 01:45 AM

haha, good shit. yeah bout half a gram outta hit you good and speed you up. lol

**kicka19** · 01-03-2006, 08:36 AM

all im sayn is speed can be tweaked and you can get slightly fast from training, if your not naturaly girfted you can not become fast, you can maybe become average speed but no more than that

**ag-guys** · 01-03-2006, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by bball

Anyone know a cycle to build speed....

I remember the Johnson guy took winstrol, maybe there is something to it.

AG
www.ag-guys.com

**Tough Old Man** · 01-03-2006, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mudge

Partially true, but even looking at football for example you have guys going from a 5 second bench press to barely over a second with MORE weight.

You can train for it.

I'm not saying a 400 pound sloth is going to become a 100m record holder, but to say that you can't improve is bullshit.

I agree totally. You can train for speed. Some people how very fast hands. That doesn't mean that they can't get faster by utilizing some type of training method. If you think not, then why do all the football teams pay tons of money for the training coaches. They hire them to help there athletes with conditioning, strength and SPEED. End of story.

**kicka19** · 01-03-2006, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

I agree totally. You can train for speed. Some people how very fast hands. That doesn't mean that they can't get faster by utilizing some type of training method. If you think not, then why do all the football teams pay tons of money for the training coaches. They hire them to help there athletes with conditioning, strength and SPEED. End of story.

not end of story tuffy, they train their wr's and rb's to get faster, u dont see them training the linemen to run 4.40 do ya?

**PWGriffin** · 01-03-2006, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by kicka19

not end of story tuffy, they train their wr's and rb's to get faster, u dont see them training the linemen to run 4.40 do ya?

How the fuck would you know? I bet every lineman in the NFL could fuckin leave you in the dust. And that's with them in full gear and you in a tank top and shorts. You CAN train to get faster you just have to know how to properly train. I'm sure with the right training, anabolics could improve on that as well...

**SuperFlex** · 01-03-2006, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

How the fuck would you know? I bet every lineman in the NFL could fuckin leave you in the dust. And that's with them in full gear and you in a tank top and shorts. You CAN train to get faster you just have to know how to properly train. I'm sure with the right training, anabolics could improve on that as well...

Hell ya anabolics make you faster! They make your balls little too...

**rgrmike74** · 01-03-2006, 07:14 PM

it is all relative. whos to say that if you "train" all you are doing is becoming as fast as you were genetically programed to be. but instead of eating right your whole life you chose to eat McDonalds and stuff your face with apple pies. Now that you are eating right and doing proper workouts you r unlocking your full genetic potential and thinking you r becoming faster when you r just becoming what you were supposed to be in the first place.

**TJ Cline** · 01-03-2006, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by bball

Anyone know a cycle to build speed....

Originally Posted by eliteballa3

Besides training like in conjunction with your training what would be the best to get your hops and your speed up.

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Du · 01-03-2006, 10:00 PM

http://www.biggerfasterstronger.com/

**kicka19** · 01-03-2006, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

How the fuck would you know? I bet every lineman in the NFL could fuckin leave you in the dust. And that's with them in full gear and you in a tank top and shorts. You CAN train to get faster you just have to know how to properly train. I'm sure with the right training, anabolics could improve on that as well...

noway in hell every lineman in the nfl could beat me in a 40 yard dash. u are a fuckn mornon and someone should fuck you with the dick you were brought into this world with, speed can be improved upon, period

**TJ Cline** · 01-03-2006, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by kicka19

noway in hell every lineman in the nfl could beat me in a 40 yard dash. u are a fuckn mornon and someone should fuck you with the dick you were brought into this world with, speed can be improved upon, period

so you run a 4.6 ?

**kicka19** · 01-04-2006, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

so you run a 4.6 ?

a 4.2 oviously, call me deon

**Tough Old Man** · 01-04-2006, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by kicka19

not end of story tuffy, they train their wr's and rb's to get faster, u dont see them training the linemen to run 4.40 do ya?

Sure they do. Have you never played football? How you never watch ESPN sports? Do you think they only hire professional trainers for the running backs? Some of those linemen could probably out run half the guys on this site and it's not cause 100% of them were born with special genectics. Get a grip on yourself. END OF STORY......

**kicka19** · 01-04-2006, 12:29 PM

ive playd football all my life untill college, nfl lineman r good atheletes and not just fat dudes, i agree they could out run 50% of people on this site, TRAINING CAN IMPROVE SPEED, IT WILL NOT MAKE A LINEMAN A RUNNINGBACK

**Tough Old Man** · 01-04-2006, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by kicka19

ive playd football all my life untill college, nfl lineman r good atheletes and not just fat dudes, i agree they could out run 50% of people on this site, TRAINING CAN IMPROVE SPEED, IT WILL NOT MAKE A LINEMAN A RUNNINGBACK

Agree

**Mudge** · 01-04-2006, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

I agree totally. You can train for speed. Some people how very fast hands. That doesn't mean that they can't get faster by utilizing some type of training method. If you think not, then why do all the football teams pay tons of money for the training coaches. They hire them to help there athletes with conditioning, strength and SPEED. End of story.

Exactly, to say that you can't is like saying you can't train for strength. Patrick for example has posted info on Olympic lifters being faster than world class sprinters for the first 10 meters, that is achieved through EXPLOSIVE training.

If you couldn't train for speed then sprinters wouldn't do shit in the offseason, nor would there be such a thing as "football practice" if you either can or can't do it.

You can "school" the body, you may not become world class but you can make changes.

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