Strength cycle for a Noob

The Monkey Man · 01-27-2006, 07:30 AM

What is a good cycle for someone who has never used...

Goals would be:
strength over size
small side effects
less cost
simplicity

Tough Old Man · 01-27-2006, 07:44 AM

Test E @ 500 mg each week.

The Monkey Man · 01-27-2006, 11:38 AM

Approximate cost???

largepkg · 01-27-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

Approximate cost???

Just Test @ 500mg per wk would be no more than $100 for a 10 wk cycle.

**Pirate!** · 01-27-2006, 02:21 PM

Test Prop 100 mg every other day for 8 weeks followed by 4 weeks of nolva. Less than $200. If you have plenty of nolva, sides should be fine at this dose.

Tough Old Man · 01-27-2006, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Test Prop 100 mg every other day for 8 weeks followed by 4 weeks of nolva. Less than $200. If you have plenty of nolva, sides should be fine at this dose.

I'm not sure if someone new would want to stick himself EOD the first go around. But if he doesn't mind then perfect.

largepkg · 01-27-2006, 02:29 PM

If you use Test Prop at Pirate's dosage you'll need 28ml. This should cost NO more than $80. The nolva is dirt cheap. Just by the powder and make your own.

Tough Old Man · 01-27-2006, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

Approximate cost???

Who really know right now monkey as Mexico is drying up and the cost is on the uprise everywhere.

TJ Cline · 01-27-2006, 03:58 PM

Test 400mg or 500mg a week for 8 weeks.
You will need 2, 10ml bottles.....cost in Mexico $40. for both....cost in the USA?????? who knows, depends on your source....but $150-200 total is typical.

largepkg · 01-27-2006, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Test 400mg or 500mg a week for 8 weeks.
You will need 2, 10ml bottles.....cost in Mexico $40. for both....cost in the USA?????? who knows, depends on your source....but $150-200 total is typical.

Damn, that's expensive! I have three different sources. I pay $50 for 20ml Test E. I guess I'm just lucky...

Tough Old Man · 01-27-2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by largepkg

Damn, that's expensive! I have three different sources. I pay $50 for 20ml Test E. I guess I'm just lucky...

sorry but I find that hard to believe. good test down here in Baja goes for about $23-25 for a 10 ml vial. So your saying that your getting it in the US for about the same price.

Also Nolva is not dirt cheap. Hope your shit is the real shit causae it sounds stange at the prices your paying for it.

largepkg · 01-27-2006, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

sorry but I find that hard to believe. good test down here in Baja goes for about $23-25 for a 10 ml vial. So your saying that your getting it in the US for about the same price.

Also Nolva is not dirt cheap. Hope your shit is the real shit causae it sounds stange at the prices your paying for it.

I use a UG lab and yes that's what I pay! As for the nolva, I purchased the powder and make my own solution. Yes, it's dirt cheap. I'm not sure the exact volume I purchased but it's enough to make 5-50ml bottles @ 20 mg/ml.

No skin off my back if you don't believe!

Rosati · 01-27-2006, 09:57 PM

do you suggest test enanthate for a intermediate lifter who is ripped and kinda skinny? who goes to the gym for a few months straight

if so more info needed for the noob.... thanks.

Guys quick opinion T BOMB Hit or miss?

Tough Old Man · 01-27-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosati

do you suggest test enanthate for a intermediate lifter who is ripped and kinda skinny? who goes to the gym for a few months straight

if so more info needed for the noob.... thanks.

Guys quick opinion T BOMB Hit or miss?

Nope. Gear is for lifters who have been at it for a while. Also if your skinny you need to eat more.

Rosati · 01-29-2006, 11:44 AM

sorry to jack , but im on the anthony ellis program

The guys would kill me if they saw this

T bomb hit or miss i want your opinions

TJ Cline · 01-29-2006, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosati

sorry to jack , but im on the anthony ellis program

The guys would kill me if they saw this

T bomb hit or miss i want your opinions

I will T bomb you and I wont miss

The Monkey Man · 01-29-2006, 12:46 PM

So when running the Noob cycle...

What % an increase do I need in my daily chow?

largepkg · 01-29-2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

So when running the Noob cycle...

What % an increase do I need in my daily chow?

MM, I'm not sure about percentages but here's what I do. I've only run relatively long esthers so I increase slowly. My maintenance calories are 3900 per day. I increase that to 4500 the first two weeks. Then I bump it to 5k the third week. The forth and all remaining weeks are at 5500. I would even go to 6k if I could but I can't handle that much food.

Hope that helps.

redflash · 01-29-2006, 03:55 PM

Cals: you just need to make sure you are getting enough to stay in positive energy balance i.e. taking in more than you are putting out. If you do less than this then you'll lose fat but limit your lean gains as your body is reluctant to make muscle if it thinks there's a famine coming...; if you do way more than this then you'll just have more fat to lose when you finish your cycle. If it was physically possible to consume 10,000 cals a day then you wouldn't gain twice as much REAL muscle as when consuming 5,000 cals a day, you'd just have a pile of lard to shift.

**Pirate!** · 01-29-2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

So when running the Noob cycle...

What % an increase do I need in my daily chow?

If you are looking for strength gains and don't want to add fat, add 500-750 calories/day above maintenance. If you want more mass, go for 1000 cal/day over. And limit cardio. Try to raise the weight on every exercise every week until you are in the 4-6 rep range. My $0.02.

The Monkey Man · 01-30-2006, 06:36 AM

All good information...

I must be lead by the hand through all this

BigDyl · 01-30-2006, 08:36 AM

STARE-OIDS R BAD!

The Monkey Man · 01-30-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

STARE-OIDS R BAD!

I have never in my life used a steroid...

...Yet

TJ Cline · 01-30-2006, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDyl

STARE-OIDS R BAD!

Not as bad as drinking booze 2x a week to excess or eating fast food 4x a week...or smoking...ect.

BigDyl · 01-30-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Not as bad as drinking booze 2x a week to excess or eating fast food 4x a week...or smoking...ect.

Who's going to take advice from a patheic excuse for a human being?

BigDyl · 01-30-2006, 04:32 PM

I'm a noob too. Don't steroids make your left ventricle larger or something?

rgrmike74 · 01-30-2006, 08:04 PM

110$ for 50ml of test-e .....UG labs r cool if you find a good one

The Monkey Man · 01-30-2006, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Not as bad as drinking booze 2x a week to excess or eating fast food 4x a week...or smoking...ect.

I think booze 1-2x per wk is small as compared to what
Fast food does to you -

01-27-2006, 07:30 AM	#1
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Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 6,172	Test Prop 100 mg every other day for 8 weeks followed by 4 weeks of nolva. Less than $200. If you have plenty of nolva, sides should be fine at this dose. My 1-Andro RX Journal

01-29-2006, 12:46 PM	#17
The Monkey Man Magical Apelikemenace Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 14,393 Photos: 57	So when running the Noob cycle... What % an increase do I need in my daily chow? Have Problems?... Chances are its due to overpopulation Save The Oceans, Save the Planet, Save Your Family, Save Yourself!

01-30-2006, 06:36 AM	#21
The Monkey Man Magical Apelikemenace Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 14,393 Photos: 57	All good information... I must be lead by the hand through all this Have Problems?... Chances are its due to overpopulation Save The Oceans, Save the Planet, Save Your Family, Save Yourself!

01-27-2006, 07:44 AM	#2
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	Test E @ 500 mg each week.

01-27-2006, 02:29 PM	#7
largepkg FAT JESUS Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: S FLA Posts: 3,690 Photos: 2	If you use Test Prop at Pirate's dosage you'll need 28ml. This should cost NO more than $80. The nolva is dirt cheap. Just by the powder and make your own.

01-27-2006, 03:58 PM	#9
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,545	Test 400mg or 500mg a week for 8 weeks. You will need 2, 10ml bottles.....cost in Mexico $40. for both....cost in the USA?????? who knows, depends on your source....but $150-200 total is typical.

01-27-2006, 09:57 PM	#13
Rosati Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Jersey Posts: 14	do you suggest test enanthate for a intermediate lifter who is ripped and kinda skinny? who goes to the gym for a few months straight if so more info needed for the noob.... thanks. Guys quick opinion T BOMB Hit or miss?

01-29-2006, 11:44 AM	#15
Rosati Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Jersey Posts: 14	sorry to jack , but im on the anthony ellis program The guys would kill me if they saw this T bomb hit or miss i want your opinions

01-29-2006, 03:55 PM	#19
redflash Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: England Posts: 200	Cals: you just need to make sure you are getting enough to stay in positive energy balance i.e. taking in more than you are putting out. If you do less than this then you'll lose fat but limit your lean gains as your body is reluctant to make muscle if it thinks there's a famine coming...; if you do way more than this then you'll just have more fat to lose when you finish your cycle. If it was physically possible to consume 10,000 cals a day then you wouldn't gain twice as much REAL muscle as when consuming 5,000 cals a day, you'd just have a pile of lard to shift.

01-30-2006, 08:04 PM	#27
rgrmike74 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 129	110$ for 50ml of test-e .....UG labs r cool if you find a good one

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