Why would you do that????Originally Posted by BigPapaPump68
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Hey, can someone answer this question for me? Can I stack test prop with enthante, and can I mix them both in the syringe? If not can someone tell me how to do it? Thank you.
Why would you do that????Originally Posted by BigPapaPump68
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I imagine you are doing that to start your cycle. Do it for about 2-3 weeks then you can stop.Originally Posted by BigPapaPump68
But yea, you can mix them in the syringe.
Front loading is a waste of roids
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Frontloading, e.g. doubling the initial doses of longer esters isn't that effective. However, loading a short ester (prop) with a longer ester (test e) is a perfectly valid approach. It's effective and negates the need for 17aa orals to kickstart your cycle.
I have done it and it didn't do shit,,,d-bol did work but I won't do that sh1t ever again.Originally Posted by redspy
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Will you take it in the ass again though?Originally Posted by ForemanRules
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How dare you disrespect the "Anabolic Zone."Originally Posted by topolo
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I'll take that as a yes.Originally Posted by ForemanRules
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absolutely Yes and it would be smart and a good way to start the cycle off if your not using a oral (d-bol/anadrol) with the cycle. Do it for 2 weeks and then just run the Enanthate starting the third week.Originally Posted by BigPapaPump68

Would you guys reccomend this approach then rather than using Dbol for the first 4 wks to kickstart the test cycle?Originally Posted by redspy
There's a lot of people who prefer not to use orals for one reason or another. I'm not a believer in front loading with more of the same product, but I'm think that using some type of fast acting gear the first couple of weeks is necessary, especially those who use short cycles. That's when I say if your not going to use an oral, use a fact acting ester...some type of Prop or acetate.Originally Posted by Mags
Myself I kick start mine off with D-bol one cycle and then Testr Prop the next.
Tough

I think Dbol would be the easier option, but hadnt really considered anything else to kickstart. Id be running 10 weeks so, again, would Dbol be best or prop etc, or is it simply just preference? Cheers


Dbol is just rougher on your lipids and it will increase your blood pressure more and you will retain more water.
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so prop would be a better kickstart then? For a first timer though, would you drop the prop and just run the single test (enan/cyp) for the 10 wks? I know we're all different but which is more effective at kickstarting, the prop or the Dbol?


Test + test might be asking for gyno.
What is more effective? Dbol without a doubt IMO.
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I prefer an oral kickstart with a long ester test and using prop at the end of the cycle. Using prop for the first few weeks of a cycle instead of an oral is also a valid option.
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Is Prop more androgenic than Dbol. I thought as far as hair loss, water and gyno were concerned, it couldnt get much worse than with orals like Dbol/drol etc. What are the benefits of using prop at the end of a cycle too?
Whatd be generally cheaper as well, Dbol for 4 wks or prop for 3? Thanks
i'd expect side effects to be worse from dbol than test (prop), but i might be wrong
it depends on the dose, you can get 10ml vials of prop at 100mg/ml for about £20, which would last 3 weeks at 100mg/wk, 100 dbol tabs will set you back about £15-20 depending on the source, and you'd need 2 packs to run say 4 weeks at 25mg/ed, so the prop would probably be slightly cheaper, but it also depends on whether you buy UG or PG, either way theres probably not a whole lot in it
I respectfully disagree. One won't get rapid gains in the first few weeks necessarily, but peak blood levels can be acheived much sooner. That was my experience with frontloading bold cypionate and test e.Originally Posted by ForemanRules
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