Would tribulus help?

**Hlanderr** · 02-22-2006, 03:42 PM

I'm going on a 4 weeker of an oral. I want to prevent shutdown as much as I can, but I'm unaware what to take.

Would a tribulus blend work well?

**SJ69** · 02-22-2006, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Hlanderr

I'm going on a 4 weeker of an oral.?

Why?

**Hlanderr** · 02-22-2006, 03:50 PM

why not!?

the newer designer orals are recommended for that time frame, so im gunna give it a go...

**Tough Old Man** · 02-22-2006, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Hlanderr

why not!?

the newer designer orals are recommended for that time frame, so im gunna give it a go...

and which ones would these be

**Hlanderr** · 02-22-2006, 10:18 PM

ive had experiene with Finigenx Magnum and Phera-plex, and they both worked pretty well

I'm gunna give Superdrol a go in a couple of months, but I heard it shuts down your sex drive real bad.... I want to limit the shutdown if I can

**icanrace** · 02-23-2006, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Hlanderr

shuts down your sex drive real bad....

nonsense.

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 02-23-2006, 08:41 AM

I dont really know bout truibulus, i mean i take that along with zma, even though i am 18. just to make sure everythign stays running ok.

Optimum Nutrition (tribulus 625) 625 mg capsules, I take 2 when i wake, and 2 at bed. along with zma at bed.

**Hlanderr** · 02-23-2006, 12:43 PM

word....

im also concerned about the potential lethargy issues with Superdrol.... any good products to deal with it?

**kicka19** · 02-23-2006, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Hlanderr

word....

im also concerned about the potential lethargy issues with Superdrol.... any good products to deal with it?

its superdol man not fukn deca or test, go 20-20-30-30mgs, then 40-40-20-20 pct, and ur fine, no need for crazy supps and shit just to complicate it

**Cardinal** · 02-25-2006, 01:50 PM

Superdrol can have a positive negative or neutral effect on libido depending on how you react to the compound. And a 4 weeker can produce some really nice results if diet and workout are in order!

I suggest you have a compound onhand to improve blood flow assuming you have a gf (if not no need for it). That way you can always perform. L-arginine AAKG is good overall. If you want to go slighly more extreme keep a little sildenefil or cialis onhand (for longer occasions).

To help with libido on cycle I wouldn't worry with tribulus or any of the other free test boosters. They may make pct seem a bit easier but probably aren't strong enough to have a big impact on cycle.

I suggest simply stacking the superdrol with prop or a longer ester of test for a longer cycle if it is libido you want to keep high. You will be shut down regardless and you might as well have at least some test in you.

**gococksDJS** · 02-25-2006, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Hlanderr

I'm going on a 4 weeker of an oral. I want to prevent shutdown as much as I can, but I'm unaware what to take.

Would a tribulus blend work well?

You can't take anything that will prevent your HPTA from shutting down. If you are supplying your body with an exogenous source of hormones, your endocrine system will slow it's production, and depending on how long you're on, you'll shut down. Even something like HCG, which stimulates natural test production via the leydig cells, is suppressive to your hypothalamus and pituitary gland.

**Hlanderr** · 02-27-2006, 09:31 AM

good info, thanks fellas

i wont take anything on cycle i guess..... i might use AAKG, but i've herd superdrol gives pumps that can sometimes be painful in the lower back..... the AAKG might amplify that... not sure though

**ZorroAzul** · 02-27-2006, 10:55 AM

I swear by tongkat ali, this is some info I found....

""Tongkat ali increases testosterone tone, but is not a testosterone agonist. Anabolic steroids are testosterone agonists. They cause a negative feedback reaction of the pituitary and hypothalamus (the two glands secrete a series of hormones that signal Leydig and other testosterone synthesizing cells to stop testosterone production). The result is a definite shrinkage of the male genitals, especially the testes. The medical term for the condition is "tesicular atrophy".

Tongkat ali is the opposite of a testosterone agonist. But no, it’s not a testosterone antagonist. Tongkat ali stimulates testosterone production by interfering with the testosterone negative feedback loop. Even when tongkat ali raises testosterone levels, the upstream pituitary and hypothalamus do not respond by signaling that testosterone synthesis should be tuned down.

The above is part abstract, part model. Tongkat ali has not been fully researched yet. While there is ample evidence that it raises testosterone, the exact mechanism by which it achieves this hasn’t been established.

However, there is educated speculation not only by this author.

Stated Lie-Chwen Lin (National Research Institute of Chinese Medicine, Shih-Pai, Taipei 112, Taiwan, R.O.C.) and Chen-Yuan Peng, Hsing-Shun Wang, Kuo-Wu Lee, and Paulus S. Wang (all of the Department of Physiology, National Yang-Ming University, Shih-Pai, Taipei 112, Taiwan, R.O.C.) wrote in a scientific study into the Chemical Constituents of tongkat ali (Eurycoma longifolia by scientific name):

"A preliminary screening demonstrated that the ethanolic extract of Eurycoma longifolia could… increase the human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG)-induced production of testosterone by … Leydig cells."

For an abstract of the above-cited article, please see:

http://jwc1.mc.ntu.edu.tw/cpj/Materi.../532097abs.htm ""

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