Thread: Enanthate and HGH cycle??

Originally Posted by MeatWad

Hey all..a little background..I'm in my late 20's about to start my 5th cycle and had a question about it. I usually run deca (300mg) for 10 weeks and either Sust or Enanthate for 12 weeks with PCT of clomid for a few weeks...Finally I'm old enough and have resource enough for HGH...This is what I was planning..I'm looking for input if this is a good or bad cycle. Enanthate for 12-15 weeks at 500mg and I have enough Gh for 4 months (can get more) at 4 Iu's a day (2 morn-2night on a 5 day on 2 day off incriment) I'm curious about if I need PCT also? I'm around 6'2, 205 and pretty lean off of genetics alone.

6'2'' and only 205 is tiny after 4 steroid cycles, looks like you need to read up in the diet and training sections and learn how to eat and train son.

This is off cycle weight and that's 4 cycles since I was 21 so it's not all recently...It's also called a VERY fast metabolism. I have a brother with a similar issue he has lost up to 7 lbs in a day from not eating enough and I have lost 5...not saying alot of that isn't water but it's a family issue. Also when I started I was only 175 so I'll take 30 pounds of mostly muscle because unlike most people If I take time off from lifting I don't get fat I get skinny, Also a little more background is that last year I had a broken bone that stopped me from lifting for almost 3 months and to be honest around the holidays were tough to get in the gym enough. BUT I'm Not trying to be a monster, I don't compete..I just want to be around 215 RIPPED..Atheltic build...that's the goal...I have a good diet, just looking for opinions and HELPFULL criticism, I'm not a genius about all of this stuff but I have done my homework before I started anything and I'm just trying to do the same now...You may say I'm small and like I said I would like another 10 pounds but at my heaviest 210 I still had a good 6 pack and was happy with my physique..and the girls didn't complain so I guess it's all good...LOL

Originally Posted by MeatWad

Hey all..a little background..I'm in my late 20's about to start my 5th cycle and had a question about it. I usually run deca (300mg) for 10 weeks and either Sust or Enanthate for 12 weeks with PCT of clomid for a few weeks...Finally I'm old enough and have resource enough for HGH...This is what I was planning..I'm looking for input if this is a good or bad cycle. Enanthate for 12-15 weeks at 500mg and I have enough Gh for 4 months (can get more) at 4 Iu's a day (2 morn-2night on a 5 day on 2 day off incriment) I'm curious about if I need PCT also? I'm around 6'2, 205 and pretty lean off of genetics alone.

Originally Posted by MeatWad

07-05-2005 I have Finished my cycle about 8 weeks ago and I'm planning on starting the next in 2 weeks. Last cycle was Qv deca 300 Wks1-10, Test En 500mg 1-10, dbol 20mg 1-4, clomid after cycle...I'm up 20 pds still have a lot of strenght. For my next I was planning just test en at 750mg a week for 10 weeks with PCT of course...does this sound good or is that too much test? This will be my 4th cycle in 6 years and I'm almost 30, 6"3, about 200

Originally Posted by MeatWad

This is off cycle weight and that's 4 cycles since I was 21 so it's not all recently...It's also called a VERY fast metabolism. I have a brother with a similar issue he has lost up to 7 lbs in a day from not eating enough and I have lost 5...not saying alot of that isn't water but it's a family issue. Also when I started I was only 175 so I'll take 30 pounds of mostly muscle because unlike most people If I take time off from lifting I don't get fat I get skinny, Also a little more background is that last year I had a broken bone that stopped me from lifting for almost 3 months and to be honest around the holidays were tough to get in the gym enough. BUT I'm Not trying to be a monster, I don't compete..I just want to be around 215 RIPPED..Atheltic build...that's the goal...I have a good diet, just looking for opinions and HELPFULL criticism, I'm not a genius about all of this stuff but I have done my homework before I started anything and I'm just trying to do the same now...You may say I'm small and like I said I would like another 10 pounds but at my heaviest 210 I still had a good 6 pack and was happy with my physique..and the girls didn't complain so I guess it's all good...LOL

Originally Posted by MeatWad

Hello all I'm a newbie to the forum and wanted to start my 3rd cycle soon (took a few months away from lifting due to rotator cuff injury from car crash) I'm looking to ad size. My last cycle was a 10wk Deca and Sustanon cycle that worked great...added about 18pds of relatively lean muscle and kept about 10-13pds without loosing much strenght. Also ran Nolva with cycle to prevent gyno so water retention wasn't as bad as it could have been. This cycle looking to run Deca again for 10wks with sustanon or EQ10wks with d-bol (pink dragons) for weeks 4-7, with Nolva again. Sound good? Do I have to worry about acne from the d-bol or hairloss? Anyone have any advise. I'm 27 6'3 about 185 was up to 197 but lost it without the gym for last 2 months.

Way too much time on your hands bro...do you think that everyone is dumb enough to put exact ages on here...what next should I tell you what street I live on and in what city..do you want the soc # next.... I don't know about anyone else but I will never and have never put all true facts about me on the internet...but as you see weight wise and cycle wise it's all the gist of it...dude if you have nothing else to say stop posting on this thread please...I'm looking for other peoples insight..if you don't want to help then be done with it. I guess you must have the perfect body so congrats...I didn't know that you wrote the book on EVERYTHING..I never claimed to be an expert but I thougth this was a discussion board...my bad. And the quotes are out of order...but whatever

Originally Posted by MeatWad

Way too much time on your hands bro...do you think that everyone is dumb enough to put exact ages on here...what next should I tell you what street I live on and in what city..do you want the soc # next.... I don't know about anyone else but I will never and have never put all true facts about me on the internet...but as you see weight wise and cycle wise it's all the gist of it...dude if you have nothing else to say stop posting on this thread please...I'm looking for other peoples insight..if you don't want to help then be done with it. I guess you must have the perfect body so congrats...I didn't know that you wrote the book on EVERYTHING..I never claimed to be an expert but I thougth this was a discussion board...my bad. And the quotes are out of order...but whatever

Yes we can find you if you post your real age......it's not like your IP address is of any use

This is foolish now..always had great advice on this board until now...Might as well end this thread if no one has any real advice about this. Didn't mean to start this to flame people...whatever kid...best of luck with everything.

It is hard to give good advice to a liar....you might try telling the truth, your life will be better once you stop lying.

I dont see a reason for GH until you put another 70+ pounds on, unless you have some kind of nagging injury in which case the steroids should be left alone for now.

Listen to these boyz meatwad, and don't bullshit foreman, boy memorizes this place like his social security number. Also not listing a correct age means they may give the wrong info, with could hurt you, or benefit you less.

Originally Posted by Mudge

I dont see a reason for GH until you put another 70+ pounds on, unless you have some kind of nagging injury in which case the steroids should be left alone for now.

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Guys like I said I appreciate any and all information including foremans about nutrition and training..I'm not a personal trainer and can always learn more..it's just about tone and setting..I can take constructive critisism as much as the next guy It's all about improvement but it just didn't sound like it was constructive that's all. I'm not sure what the difference between 28-29 is as far as years...I would think that after mid twenties what matters the most is the lenght of time between cycles and obviously training and nutrition amongst supplements. As far as the injuries they were 2 seperate injuries..one was rotator cuff and the other a boxers fracture of my hand. both hindered me. I really appreciate the advise...I was trying to see if and when I do this cycle if the test and hgh would be beneficial or if they would combat each other. I know people using just hgh and people using test, EQ and HGH...just wanted to get more opinions on it..it's tough finding the information on the internet..wanted to ask some of you who might have actuall experience. I added stats and told my goal of like 10 pds with a lean compostion just to see if this would help me achieve it that's all. I prefer a lean fitness model type, I don't think genetically I can get huge anyway.

MW, Mudge is spot on here. At your height and weight there's no reason to be doing anything more than your standard cycle. Why risk throwing HGH into the mix? I could understand if you were say 250-260lbs and were looking for another edge, but you said yourself you don't want to get huge. My advise would be to put the HGH away and stick to your basic cycles.

10-20lbs can be gained in 6-8 weeks with Test and a proper diet. Mission accomplished then, right?

Largepkg, thank you for the input. I do understand that normal cycle for mass would suffice but I wasn't sure if the HGH would give me more of the lean look and allow me to keep more of the muscle I gain because it actually would increase the amount of muscle cells in my body...what is the downside to the GH? Risk are greater than Anabolics? I figured having the test a good diet AND HGH would be an awsome cycle...but I appreciate everyones insight on this....just looking for knowledge.

Originally Posted by MeatWad

Largepkg, thank you for the input. I do understand that normal cycle for mass would suffice but I wasn't sure if the HGH would give me more of the lean look and allow me to keep more of the muscle I gain because it actually would increase the amount of muscle cells in my body...what is the downside to the GH? Risk are greater than Anabolics? I figured having the test a good diet AND HGH would be an awsome cycle...but I appreciate everyones insight on this....just looking for knowledge.

I have limited knowledge of HGH. What little I know is that it has the same effects on organ cells as it does on muscle cells. This is pure speculation on my part but if HGH promotes additional muscle cells to be formed wouldn't it also promote all other cells as well? ie bone, heart, abnormal mutated cells as well.

I think we take enough of a risk doing what we already do without adding more. Also, if you do this proposed cycle you wouldn't notice the HGH for up to 4-6 months. The Test would have long been finished by then.