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    Question When should I

    I have never used any Juice, but I am very interested in starting. I have no idea where to begin or what to start using, so I know I have alot of research ahead of me. But right now that is not my question. What I would like to know, is once I find what I should start with, should I even begin a cycle. The reason I ask, is becuase at the end of this year I plan on having surgery to remove alot of excess skin I have left over form losing ALOT of weight.... I have waited and waited to see if the skin will shrink, but its just to slow of a process, and decided surgery is what I need. Should I even start a cycle since I want surgery, will it cause problems??
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    How long have you been training?

    What are your stats?
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    Been training for 4 years from 1998 was 430lbs current weight 248lb

    Height - 5'11
    weight - 248lb
    age - 28
    Body fat 22%

    I train weights Mon-Wed-Fri
    Try to get Cardio Tues-Thur-Sat
    I eat pretty clean, alow myself one sweet every two weeks, and try to keep my carbs low/Protein High.
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    wow dude, congrats on the awesome weight loss.
    "When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

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    BF% is still waaaay too high. Get down to 14% or so 1st.
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    But congrats w/ your progress.
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Thank you all... Once I get my pics scaned I will do a before and after for you. Right now I just have my before...and I would rather put it up once I have my after...makes it look ALOT better. But as to my question above... are there any comments to that?
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    The problem is that when your BF% is higher, so are the side effects of androgens and anabolics, particularly the estrogenic sides (gynocomastia predominantly). You need to get down to 15% or so to be safe, especially your 1st time around. You've gotten this far, it won't take forever. Plus, more time to research . I'm not tryin' to be an ass, just tryin' to help.
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    No, dont think your an ass at all... I am glad for the input... thanks...
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    Cool, bro. Most people hate to hear "wait a while", but it's good to hear someone thinkin' w/ their head instead of...errr...well, someone who doesn't need an anal craniectomy. Good luck.

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    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
    --- Zakk Wylde ---
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    How old are you and what is your primary goal?

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