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    i have been doing my research and in know ill get ragged on for asking this but which is better for my first cycle winstrol (oral) or dbol.
    I want to gain alot of muscle mass but also want to be ripped, which is better for what i want.

    Thanks for your time

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticks11
    i have been doing my research and in know ill get ragged on for asking this but which is better for my first cycle winstrol (oral) or dbol.
    I want to gain alot of muscle mass but also want to be ripped, which is better for what i want.

    Thanks for your time
    Neither, you need to to do more research.
    Maybe not, it seems your research is leading you down the wrong path.
    If you must--> 500mg Test E every week for 10 weeks
    -->eat correctly
    -->train correctly
    -->buy lots of Nolvadex, you'll need latter
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    Quote Originally Posted by sticks11
    i have been doing my research and in know ill get ragged on for asking this but which is better for my first cycle winstrol (oral) or dbol.
    I want to gain alot of muscle mass but also want to be ripped, which is better for what i want.

    Thanks for your time
    whats your body type?...whats your goal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    http://web.indstate.edu/thcme/mwking...-hormones.html


    A good read for any person who is using or thinking about using steroids.
    Those carbon skeletons give me a headache

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    Im 5'8, 188lbs, i bench 185 for reps, and squat 325. And i want to be able to bench 235 at the end of my cycle. I want a big upper body and thats all im worried about, any workout tips??

    Thanks for your time

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    What are your stats? Also you should really get up to 200lbs beofore your first cycle but you have already started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticks11
    i have been doing my research and in know ill get ragged on for asking this but which is better for my first cycle winstrol (oral) or dbol.
    I want to gain alot of muscle mass but also want to be ripped, which is better for what i want.

    Thanks for your time
    neither cycle is good

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    you shouldnt only be worried about your upper body. you must not know very much about proper lifting and such if you just want a "beach body" eat a lot and learn how to properly train and after you gain more naturally take 500mg test e for 10 weeks as suggested

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    How heavy do you want to be. I have a feeling your goals could be achieved without drugs, with good nutrition and hard training! May take longer but much safer and less risky.

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