Thread: PCT HCG or clomid?

1) Age
2) Weight and Percent BodyFat
3) Years of Consistant Training experience
4) Previous Cycle experience
5) Training routine and Diet
6) Cycle Goals

Follow the rules before asking questions.

1) Age 24

2) Weight and Percent BodyFat hmm.. maybe 5'6,155,
11-14%

3) Years of Consistant Training experience, 3

4) Previous Cycle experience, ive done 1 ,
i started at 149, went up to 163, it went well until i started trying to cut the fat, , (pretty much the same cycle)

5) Training routine and Diet, 4-5 days on, lots of protein lots of carbs

6) Cycle Goals, BULK!

2) Weight and Percent BodyFat hmm.. 5'6,155,
11-14%
THE MAYBE WAS ABOUT MY FAT PERCENTAGE, NOT MY HEIGHT OR WEIGHT

Originally Posted by vivecreep

1) Age 24

2) Weight and Percent BodyFat hmm.. maybe 5'6,155,
11-14%

3) Years of Consistant Training experience, 3

4) Previous Cycle experience, ive done 1 ,
i started at 149, went up to 163, it went well until i started trying to cut the fat, , (pretty much the same cycle)

5) Training routine and Diet, 4-5 days on, lots of protein lots of carbs

6) Cycle Goals, BULK!

3 years is way too soon to do a cycle, 149 is tiny.....you need to work on your training and diet before you gass up son.

what rules? im talking about my self, thats pretty much what people post. send me the link!

Originally Posted by vivecreep

what rules? im talking about my self, thats pretty much what people post. send me the link!

You are not even close to being ready for a cycle

Cycle Advice

Thanks Dad.

thanks for the link, but it still doesnt have much to do with PCT.

Originally Posted by vivecreep

thanks for the link, but it still doesnt have much to do with PCT.

Best Of Stickies

ali never said that foreman

You need to learn how to eat and lift weights before you juice, otherwise you are wasting your time.

Originally Posted by vivecreep

so when youre coming off a 12 week cycle of:
500mg test e.
400mg eq
is clomid/ liquidex good enough, or is HCG a must?
ill be running the liquidex through out the cycle as well.

well guys I look at it this way. He's already done one cycle so we are not going to talk him out of a 2nd. With that said, I would have run the HCG the last 10 days of my cycle and then Clomid or Nolva which ever you have after. Personally I prefer Nolva over Clomid.

thanks tough old man, im sure nobody on here is "by the book" or they wouldnt be here. and my stats have absoluty NOTHING to do with Post Cycle Therapy, and as far as my eating habits Mudge, i think ive done that part of the research by now.......on a SIDE NOTE: correct me if im wrong isnt Nolva to decrease estro, and clomid to jump start your natural test production? so you need both, right? be helpful not just arrogant, no one figures this sh*#@ out by themselves.

Originally Posted by vivecreep

thanks tough old man, im sure nobody on here is "by the book" or they wouldnt be here. and my stats have absoluty NOTHING to do with Post Cycle Therapy, and as far as my eating habits Mudge, i think ive done that part of the research by now.......on a SIDE NOTE: correct me if im wrong isnt Nolva to decrease estro, and clomid to jump start your natural test production? so you need both, right? be helpful not just arrogant, no one figures this sh*#@ out by themselves.

To be honest most on this site don't punk out and do a cycle at 145 like you did. Most of us put in the work and time......and 10 years from now when you are fat slob or a skinny pathetic rake we will still be in great shape.


Shame on you tough

On cycle: arimidex to keep estrogen down and nolva as needed to treat gyno symptoms.

Post Cycle: 1) Nolva or 2) Nolva and Clomid