One more question, please help

Flex · 12-18-2006, 05:59 PM

I'm running Week 1-10 500mg cyp
5-10 45mg Masteron ED
6-10 45mg Winny ED

I'm def. running 4 weeks of winny, but when??

Week 6-10 or 7-"11" (meaning during the 1st week of the "waiting period")

Any opinions?

**dg806** · 12-18-2006, 08:20 PM

If you extend it to week 11, it just shuts you down a week longer. I would come off at one time and do PC.

Flex · 12-18-2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg806

If you extend it to week 11, it just shuts you down a week longer. I would come off at one time and do PC.

I hear you.

But isn't winny's half life very short?

Anabolex.com said you should start pct 24hrs after you last winny tab....
thus, by time the test cyp is done (about 18days), the winny will be long gone...

**dg806** · 12-19-2006, 12:18 PM

I wouldn't run winny period.

Flex · 12-19-2006, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg806

I wouldn't run winny period.

why not?

Ryan-Boro · 12-19-2006, 03:04 PM

harsh as fuck on the liver

Flex · 12-19-2006, 04:03 PM

so are most orals.

any other reason?

BigPapaPump68 · 12-19-2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flex

so are most orals.

any other reason?

When everyone talks about the effects winstrol has on your cholesterol, they are not shitting you. It will affect your cholesterol and lipids, and it takes months for them to return back to normal. Im not trying to talk you out of it, but just making sure you know that before hand.

**Mudge** · 12-19-2006, 06:38 PM

I'd be more concerned about cholesterol. That aside, cyp will take longer to clear so you are right, you are going to be suppressed in the 11th week anyway.

Flex · 12-19-2006, 07:58 PM

What are the negatives about having bad cholesterol?

Aside from taking Winny, my cholesterol is very good.

**dg806** · 12-20-2006, 08:23 AM

It's more than just your total cholesterol. It's your HDL and LDL levels. Get them too far out of whack and it's heart disease waiting to happen.

Flex · 12-20-2006, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg806

It's more than just your total cholesterol. It's your HDL and LDL levels. Get them too far out of whack and it's heart disease waiting to happen.

I certainly don't have to worry about heart disease at my age.

dumbdumbdinkel3 · 12-20-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex

I certainly don't have to worry about heart disease at my age.

idiot...take this from a paramedics experiences; ive seen people of all ages with heart problems, heart attacks, etc.....for example there was a cop in maryland just a few weeks ago, i believe he was 24? cant remember but he was on duty, got so amped about a call he went into cardiac arrest while driving and completely demolished the car into some trees.

largepkg · 12-20-2006, 01:05 PM

Flex, if you decide to run the winny against what everyone is suggesting then yes run it through week 11. You'll be shut down through week 12 from the cyp anyway and the half life is very short with winny.

I personally wouldn't touch it.

Flex · 12-20-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dumbdumbdinkel3

idiot...take this from a paramedics experiences; ive seen people of all ages with heart problems, heart attacks, etc.....for example there was a cop in maryland just a few weeks ago, i believe he was 24? cant remember but he was on duty, got so amped about a call he went into cardiac arrest while driving and completely demolished the car into some trees.

well let's see.

The main risk factors of heart disease include genetics, high blood cholesterol, smoking, lack of exercise, stress and obesity.

Considering my family doesn't have it, i don't smoke, i exercise like a beast, i'm not a stressful person, i'm not overweight, and i'm very healthy, cholesterol seems to be the only problem here.

oh ya.......idiot.

**Mudge** · 12-20-2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flex

I certainly don't have to worry about heart disease at my age.

Your age doesn't much matter when the drugs are what do the damage, very low HDL is what will happen. One person scored a 7 after taking 50mg for a cycle with no other steroids, he thought it was a "side effect free" steroid. Problem is most people think of side effects as something you see or feel, not whats going on inside of you.

Your LDL probably wont be a problem other than it is more likely to do damage without the HDL there in normal levels. LDL should not get high on a clean diet with plenty of fiber. Again, when HDL is low though its more likely to become arterial plaque and shorten your lifespan thusly.

That is why cholesterol can become a problem, you mess with various hormones and there are consequences that ripple throughout the body.

**Pirate!** · 12-21-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by largepkg

Flex, if you decide to run the winny against what everyone is suggesting then yes run it through week 11. You'll be shut down through week 12 from the cyp anyway and the half life is very short with winny.

I personally wouldn't touch it.

Exactly what I was going to say. I cast another vote against using it. Not good for you joints. The masteron will do what you want the winny to.

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12-19-2006, 04:03 PM	#7
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	so are most orals. any other reason?
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Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,993 Photos: 1	I'd be more concerned about cholesterol. That aside, cyp will take longer to clear so you are right, you are going to be suppressed in the 11th week anyway.
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12-19-2006, 07:58 PM	#10
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	What are the negatives about having bad cholesterol? Aside from taking Winny, my cholesterol is very good.
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12-20-2006, 08:23 AM	#11
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,077	It's more than just your total cholesterol. It's your HDL and LDL levels. Get them too far out of whack and it's heart disease waiting to happen.
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12-20-2006, 01:05 PM	#14
largepkg Senior Fucknut Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: S FLA Posts: 2,975 Photos: 2	Flex, if you decide to run the winny against what everyone is suggesting then yes run it through week 11. You'll be shut down through week 12 from the cyp anyway and the half life is very short with winny. I personally wouldn't touch it.

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