Thread: Steroids and cancer development?

Originally Posted by nicsta05

Hi everyone I just had a general question to ask?
My friend who has been pretty cleen all his life (no big drugs and not too much alcohol) did one m1t cycle followed by a sustanon 250 cycle last summer all with post cycle and everything. He then did a cut cycle starting in december and last week was diagnosed with advanced leukemia!!
I was wondering if steroids could of helped accelerate the development of cancer or if it was just his time.
Thanx

I've often wondered if steroids could accelerate cancerous growths also.
It would be very interesting to see what those that have the knowledge have to say....

Steroids will advance the growth of all soft tissue, including cancer and tumors. I think this is where everyone gets the idea that steroids give you cancer. You might have a real small amount of cancer that will you would never notice, then you take aas/hgh/igf etc and it grows along with everything else.

There has never been a single conclusive study that steroids cause, or accelerate, cancer growth.

HGH on the other hand, has.

Originally Posted by musclepump

There has never been a single conclusive study that steroids cause, or accelerate, cancer growth.

HGH on the other hand, has.

Its proven that estrogen can increase breat cancer in women

Originally Posted by NordicNacho

Its proven that estrogen can increase breat cancer in women

That is a good point. Both progesterone and estrogen has been linked to various cancers in women. It makes sense that since your estrogen levels will be elevated during a cycle of anobolics, there might be an increased chance of developing cancer in males.

I have no evidence to back this up, I am simply entertaining the possibility.

Sex hormones can have an influence on certain types of cancer. It won't give you cancer though. Your diet has a major influence, as well.

i think its foolish to not believe steroids will drasticaly increase cancers growth, if you believe it has no effect your just telling yourself what you want to hear

Originally Posted by kicka19

i think its foolish to not believe steroids will drasticaly increase cancers growth, if you believe it has no effect your just telling yourself what you want to hear

I've seen numerous scientific studies that say otherwise.

But, I guess they're just telling me what I want to hear, too, right?

Originally Posted by musclepump

I've seen numerous scientific studies that say otherwise.

But, I guess they're just telling me what I want to hear, too, right?

yes u r hearing exactly what u want, give a person who has cancer steroids and the steroids will make it grow faster, im not saying it causes cancer but sure as hell doesnt help it. post ur numerous scientific studies

Originally Posted by kicka19

yes u r hearing exactly what u want, give a person who has cancer steroids and the steroids will make it grow faster, im not saying it causes cancer but sure as hell doesnt help it. post ur numerous scientific studies

You do realize they prescribe steroids such as prednisone to cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, right?

Originally Posted by kicka19

i think its foolish to not believe steroids will drasticaly increase cancers growth, if you believe it has no effect your just telling yourself what you want to hear

When you can't prove your point, try and pass the buck

Originally Posted by brogers

You do realize they prescribe steroids such as prednisone to cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, right?

prednisone is not an anabolic steriod, it is an systemic immune-suppresive corticosteriod.

it is also commonly used for extreme cases of psoriasis type skin conditions.

Interestingly, corticosteroids applied topically such as clobetasol can actually exaccerbate skin conditions such as fungal infections.

I think your argument is weak.

http://theoncologist.alphamedpress.o...t/full/5/2/162

Originally Posted by blueboy75

prednisone is not an anabolic steriod, it is an systemic immune-suppresive corticosteriod.

it is also commonly used for extreme cases of psoriasis type skin conditions.

Interestingly, corticosteroids applied topically such as clobetasol can actually exaccerbate skin conditions such as fungal infections.

I think your argument is weak.

Just as the poster I quoted, I did not distinguish between "steroids." The point of my post was to show that steroids are a huge class of drugs with many different kinds that have vastly different actions. Generalizing all "steroids" is foolish.

It isn't an argument, so I'm not sure what's weak about it. It's a statement about medical treatments. I think your reading comprehension is weak.

Originally Posted by musclepump

When you can't prove your point, try and pass the buck

your wrong, i dont have to prove my point, you said u know studies print them, the study posted spoke of a steroid that lowers test and not anabolic, there are steroids for all kinds of hormones which will help fight cancer, im talking about the ovious anabolic we are taking, so bottom line more often than not ANABOLIC steroids will make tumors grow at faster rates, all skeletal muscle and soft tissue in general multiplies at a fast rate, that is why there is also a greater chance for mutation, can trouble chime in on this?

Originally Posted by brogers

Just as the poster I quoted, I did not distinguish between "steroids." The point of my post was to show that steroids are a huge class of drugs with many different kinds that have vastly different actions. Generalizing all "steroids" is foolish.

It isn't an argument, so I'm not sure what's weak about it. It's a statement about medical treatments. I think your reading comprehension is weak.

this is an ANABOLIC steroid forum, when steroids are brought up we assume they are anabolic and not for another purpose

Originally Posted by kicka19

this is an ANABOLIC steroid forum, when steroids are brought up we assume they are anabolic and not for another purpose

Point being, there is wide variety between different compounds. Statements like "steroids make cancer grow" is comparable to saying "steroids will send your HDL to single digits" or "steroids will have serious adverse affects on your liver."

Some do, some might, some might not, some do not.

I would suspect if there is any correlation with steroids and cancer it would be indirect, due to increases in growth hormone/growth factor levels I'd have to investigate further to give a better answer.

Originally Posted by brogers

Just as the poster I quoted, I did not distinguish between "steroids." The point of my post was to show that steroids are a huge class of drugs with many different kinds that have vastly different actions. Generalizing all "steroids" is foolish.

It isn't an argument, so I'm not sure what's weak about it. It's a statement about medical treatments. I think your reading comprehension is weak.

The original post in this thread quoted 2 specific anabolics. And as others have already mentioned, this is an anabolic forum.

Using an example of corticosteriod in not relevant to any of the discussions/points here. I think my reading comprehension is fine, sufficient enough to comprehend irrelevant posts.

Originally Posted by blueboy75

The original post in this thread quoted 2 specific anabolics. And as others have already mentioned, this is an anabolic forum.

Using an example of corticosteriod in not relevant to any of the discussions/points here. I think my reading comprehension is fine, sufficient enough to comprehend irrelevant posts.

Actually it is relevant, the point is that it is not a good idea to make broad generalizations.

I suppose we can nail down that all anabolic steroids are totally alike. I'll keep this in mind as I start my cycle of 500mg halotestin/wk for 10wks.

Originally Posted by brogers

Actually it is relevant, the point is that it is not a good idea to make broad generalizations.

I suppose we can nail down that all anabolic steroids are totally alike. I'll keep this in mind as I start my cycle of 500mg halotestin/wk for 10wks.

Ill donate you my liver when your done that cycle.

Originally Posted by brogers

Actually it is relevant, the point is that it is not a good idea to make broad generalizations.

I suppose we can nail down that all anabolic steroids are totally alike. I'll keep this in mind as I start my cycle of 500mg halotestin/wk for 10wks.

We are talking about common anabolic steroids used by athletes to increase athletic performance and gain lean body mass. Everyone understood that except you. The original poster is talking about a friend using sust and m1t, not some obscure medical steroid.

It would be nice if you could post some useful information about commonly used anabolic steroids and scientific data showing a link to increased risk of cancer, or lack of rather than derailing the topic so you can be a smartass.