Testosterone Cypionate or Sustanon 250???

tryn2getbig · 03-12-2007, 02:18 PM

Hey there, I have done a couple cycles of M1T but have been thinking of venturing to some injectables. Does anyone out there have any experience with these two? If so, any suggestions? From what I have found the both pretty much cost the same, but it seems as though there may be less sides if I go with test. cypionate than sustanon 250. Again, any info from experience users would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance...

kicka19 · 03-12-2007, 02:50 PM

exact same active steroid (test), cyp has is a long ester, while sust has multiple esters ussually 5 or so all at different lengths, id go with the cyp hands down

**Pirate!** · 03-12-2007, 06:54 PM

tryn2getbig · 03-13-2007, 01:26 AM

If I were to go to test. cypionate, would I see some more gains than that with the M1T? I put on around 15lbs in just a few weeks with the M1T. I'm still researching test. cypionate though. How about this, with PCT, would I still use Tomixfin Citrate? If so, is there anything better tasting out there than what I got off of IBENutrition.com, because that stuff is HORRID!!! Also, should I stack with anything else? Again, suggestions are greatly appreciated!

tryn2getbig · 03-13-2007, 06:04 AM

Question, I found a place that sells several different types of test but they sell them in sachet. Has anyone ever used a sachet? Is this sterile? If anyone has any other good sites I could check out, as to compare, could you please PM me?

kicka19 · 03-13-2007, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tryn2getbig

If I were to go to test. cypionate, would I see some more gains than that with the M1T? I put on around 15lbs in just a few weeks with the M1T. I'm still researching test. cypionate though. How about this, with PCT, would I still use Tomixfin Citrate? If so, is there anything better tasting out there than what I got off of IBENutrition.com, because that stuff is HORRID!!! Also, should I stack with anything else? Again, suggestions are greatly appreciated!

just squirt the nolva in your mouth and chase with OJ, as for gains it all depends, id say 10lbs of keepable gains are probably to be expectedfor a 8-10 week cycle but that could vary greatly depending on diet.

**dg806** · 03-13-2007, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tryn2getbig

Question, I found a place that sells several different types of test but they sell them in sachet. Has anyone ever used a sachet? Is this sterile? If anyone has any other good sites I could check out, as to compare, could you please PM me?

It is suppose to be sterile. You need to draw that out and inject into a sterile vial for future use or preload some syringes. I would use a sterile vial.

IRONBULL05 · 03-13-2007, 07:29 PM

Im would go with the cyp as well for a first run.

I have used the sachets and yes,they are sterile.I preloaded my pins and stored them like that.

As far as what to stack,dbol for the first 4 wks of the cycle will go well.This will kickstart the cycle until the test starts to take effect.

PCT can be Nolva and Clomid combined for 4 wks.Starting 2 wk after your last inj.of test.

Wks 1-12 test C 500mg EW(250 Mon,250 Thurs)
Wks 1-4 dbol 30mg ed-divided throughout the day
Wks 14-18 Nolva @30mg ed/Clomid 50mg ed

You can start the Nolva at 60mg the 5 days day,30mg remaining days.Clomid 100mg first 5 days,then go with 50mg from there till end.

This is a very mild cycle so there should be few if any neg.sides and you should bounce back easily.
Good luck brother.

tryn2getbig · 03-15-2007, 02:49 PM

When obtaining needles and what not, does anyone out there know of any "discreet" means of purchase? Its kinda of difficult to have something sent to where I am at and then have to somehow justify why I am receiving it. I know there are probably thousands of places to get pharmaceutical supplies, but if anyone knows of any that I am looking for, all info would be appreciated.

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tryn2getbig · 03-15-2007, 03:02 PM

I have been researching Test Cyp and Enanthate. I have found that Enanthate would be the way to go. I have read that Enanthate has more test than cyp but not a lot more. Is there really a difference and if so would it make a large difference?

BUSTINOUT · 03-19-2007, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tryn2getbig

I have read that Enanthate has more test than cyp but not a lot more.

200mg/ml Cyp or 200mg/ml Enanthate. which one has higher dose? They are both the same so whatever you read makes no sense.

kicka19 · 03-19-2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSTINOUT

200mg/ml Cyp or 200mg/ml Enanthate. which one has higher dose? They are both the same so whatever you read makes no sense.

not true, i may be wrong but the longer the tail ester the lesses the mg/ml concetration is of actual test

**Pirate!** · 03-19-2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicka19

not true, i may be wrong but the longer the tail ester the lesses the mg/ml concetration is of actual test

That is correct. Less ester means more test per mg of the compound. However, it doesn't make a difference if one factors this into their dosing plan. The slight difference is no reason to pick one over the other, IMO.

You can get nolva, clomid etc in caps from most sources if the taste is a problem. I can't stand liquid nolva, personally.

tryn2getbig · 03-20-2007, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate!

That is correct. Less ester means more test per mg of the compound. However, it doesn't make a difference if one factors this into their dosing plan. The slight difference is no reason to pick one over the other, IMO.

You can get nolva, clomid etc in caps from most sources if the taste is a problem. I can't stand liquid nolva, personally.

I completely agree, the taste blows! Can you turn me on to any place that I can nolva from? I went to IBENutrition and it seem as though it's changed its website since September, and they no longer offer it.

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tryn2getbig · 03-20-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dg806

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tryn2getbig · 03-20-2007, 04:11 PM

When I cycled M1T, I was taking in a lot of vitamins. B-12, Milk Thistle, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Enchancinea, Vitamin C. Is it safe to say that I would need all of this once I started my cycle of cyp? Or because the M1T was bioavailable it was harsher on my liver so I needed to ensure the I kept it, and me, healthy?

tryn2getbig · 03-21-2007, 08:23 AM

Another question, is a 23ga. needle too small for injection? That was all that I was able to get out here without it having to be sent from anywhere. Also, does anyone have any journals that I can look at for sample meal plans while bulking?

kicka19 · 03-21-2007, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tryn2getbig

Another question, is a 23ga. needle too small for injection? That was all that I was able to get out here without it having to be sent from anywhere. Also, does anyone have any journals that I can look at for sample meal plans while bulking?

23 gague is perfect, just will take a while 2 draw

tryn2getbig · 03-21-2007, 02:40 PM

Is there a conversion table for mililieters to cc's? As in how many mililieters to one cc...

mgs · 03-21-2007, 03:32 PM

lol dont you know how to use a search engine?

mgs · 03-21-2007, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tryn2getbig

Is there a conversion table for mililieters to cc's? As in how many mililieters to one cc...

1ml is 1cc - same quantity

BUSTINOUT · 03-22-2007, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate!

That is correct. Less ester means more test per mg of the compound. However, it doesn't make a difference if one factors this into their dosing plan. The slight difference is no reason to pick one over the other, IMO.

Well said.

250 is still 250...half life aside. too easy to get paralysis by analysis and people think too hard abotu this stuff.

tryn2getbig · 03-23-2007, 01:15 AM

So is 250 milligrams the same as 250 milliliters? or is it 1 milliliter to 20 milligrams?

tryn2getbig · 03-23-2007, 01:24 AM

The needles that I have are, I think, 5 milliliters. Which my next question is, if I am doing 250 twice a week, would that be 4 or more shots per week?

kicka19 · 03-23-2007, 07:33 AM

if ur test is 250 mg/ml its 2 shots a week, each shot 1ml

tryn2getbig · 03-24-2007, 06:21 PM

has anyone heard of a site called advanced-stealth? Can anyone confirm this is legit?

tryn2getbig · 03-25-2007, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicka19

if ur test is 250 mg/ml its 2 shots a week, each shot 1ml

First let me apologize for my next question, since I know it sounds stupid... But this is my first time injecting. So really, 250mg/ml is not that much to be injected? Just from seeing in movies and whateer, which I'm an idiot for believing, that you have this completely full syringe full of whatever that will be injected into you. But in reality it's just really not that much!

Musclebeach · 06-28-2007, 10:46 AM

I too am curious if anyone else has heard of advanced-stealth... anyone know if they are legit? Please, PM me.

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IRONBULL05 GODFATHER Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: EVERYWHERE Posts: 192	Im would go with the cyp as well for a first run. I have used the sachets and yes,they are sterile.I preloaded my pins and stored them like that. As far as what to stack,dbol for the first 4 wks of the cycle will go well.This will kickstart the cycle until the test starts to take effect. PCT can be Nolva and Clomid combined for 4 wks.Starting 2 wk after your last inj.of test. Wks 1-12 test C 500mg EW(250 Mon,250 Thurs) Wks 1-4 dbol 30mg ed-divided throughout the day Wks 14-18 Nolva @30mg ed/Clomid 50mg ed You can start the Nolva at 60mg the 5 days day,30mg remaining days.Clomid 100mg first 5 days,then go with 50mg from there till end. This is a very mild cycle so there should be few if any neg.sides and you should bounce back easily. Good luck brother. OWNER@ BBB FREEDOM TO CHOOSE FREEDOM TO LIVE

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03-12-2007, 02:18 PM	#1
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	Testosterone Cypionate or Sustanon 250??? Hey there, I have done a couple cycles of M1T but have been thinking of venturing to some injectables. Does anyone out there have any experience with these two? If so, any suggestions? From what I have found the both pretty much cost the same, but it seems as though there may be less sides if I go with test. cypionate than sustanon 250. Again, any info from experience users would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance...

03-13-2007, 01:26 AM	#4
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	If I were to go to test. cypionate, would I see some more gains than that with the M1T? I put on around 15lbs in just a few weeks with the M1T. I'm still researching test. cypionate though. How about this, with PCT, would I still use Tomixfin Citrate? If so, is there anything better tasting out there than what I got off of IBENutrition.com, because that stuff is HORRID!!! Also, should I stack with anything else? Again, suggestions are greatly appreciated!

03-13-2007, 06:04 AM	#5
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	Question, I found a place that sells several different types of test but they sell them in sachet. Has anyone ever used a sachet? Is this sterile? If anyone has any other good sites I could check out, as to compare, could you please PM me?

03-15-2007, 02:49 PM	#9
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	When obtaining needles and what not, does anyone out there know of any "discreet" means of purchase? Its kinda of difficult to have something sent to where I am at and then have to somehow justify why I am receiving it. I know there are probably thousands of places to get pharmaceutical supplies, but if anyone knows of any that I am looking for, all info would be appreciated.

03-15-2007, 03:02 PM	#11
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	I have been researching Test Cyp and Enanthate. I have found that Enanthate would be the way to go. I have read that Enanthate has more test than cyp but not a lot more. Is there really a difference and if so would it make a large difference?

03-20-2007, 04:11 PM	#18
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	When I cycled M1T, I was taking in a lot of vitamins. B-12, Milk Thistle, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Enchancinea, Vitamin C. Is it safe to say that I would need all of this once I started my cycle of cyp? Or because the M1T was bioavailable it was harsher on my liver so I needed to ensure the I kept it, and me, healthy?

03-21-2007, 08:23 AM	#19
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	Another question, is a 23ga. needle too small for injection? That was all that I was able to get out here without it having to be sent from anywhere. Also, does anyone have any journals that I can look at for sample meal plans while bulking?

03-21-2007, 02:40 PM	#21
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	Is there a conversion table for mililieters to cc's? As in how many mililieters to one cc...

03-21-2007, 03:32 PM	#22
mgs Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 38	lol dont you know how to use a search engine?

03-23-2007, 01:15 AM	#25
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	So is 250 milligrams the same as 250 milliliters? or is it 1 milliliter to 20 milligrams?

03-23-2007, 01:24 AM	#26
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	The needles that I have are, I think, 5 milliliters. Which my next question is, if I am doing 250 twice a week, would that be 4 or more shots per week?

03-24-2007, 06:21 PM	#28
tryn2getbig Slowly... but surely! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Back from Iraq Posts: 234	has anyone heard of a site called advanced-stealth? Can anyone confirm this is legit?

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