!new Cycle!

**mgs** · 03-16-2007, 08:49 AM

Hi all,

So im just about to get my cycle up and on the go, looking forward to putting in some hard work and hopefully some great results. I have decided to kick off with anadrol for some fast gains. So heres pretty much what im going for...if anyone has ran a cycle like mine or similar then any opinions/experiences are appreciated.

So....

Weeks 1-4: Anadrol 50-100 mg/ED
Weeks: 1-10 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg EW
Weeks: 10-14 PCT Nolvadex

or

Weeks 1-4: Anadrol 50-100 mg/ED
Weeks: 5-10 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg EW
Weeks: 10-14 PCT Nolvadex

As im using the anadrol to kick start my test cycle it leaves me wondering how much benefit i would gain from running the test right from week 1 or starting at week 4 as im finishing the anadrol? As i know many folk go for test at week 1.

Aiming to gain as much extra weight as possible

6ft, 189lbs

trained for about 5 years, 3 hardcore

cycle below (or similar) 5 times
Wks 1-12 test C 500mg EW(250 Mon,250 Thurs)
Wks 1-4 dbol 30mg ed
Wks 14-18 Nolva @30mg ed/Clomid 50mg ed

**ZECH** · 03-16-2007, 08:57 AM

You still haven't posted what your diet looks like. This is the key.
You've run 5 pevious cycles at age 20?

Running test only 5 weeks is useless. Run it the entire cycle.

**kicka19** · 03-16-2007, 10:04 AM

noway u have ran 5 cycles of the exact same thing and still dont know what your doing, im calling bs on this

**musclepump** · 03-16-2007, 04:39 PM

and you're 20. you should go away now. quickly.

**mgs** · 03-18-2007, 09:49 AM

Correct!! and believe it or not id agree i had started to early, but too late isnt it cant turn back the clock, and anyway its is irrelevant as i didnt ask for any opinion on my past simply asked about my next cycle. If you want to get your akward heads on and be unsociable or simply dont want to help me then ill goto a more sociable forum.

**ShapeUP** · 03-18-2007, 11:56 AM

if you've done 5 cycles why not just go for the tren.

**ShapeUP** · 03-18-2007, 03:20 PM

I don't think it is advisable to run eq and deca together. Just too much.

Test E and Deca

or

Test E and EQ

for mass.

**Pirate!** · 03-18-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by sooner huge

how much should i run weekly with my deca? Im doing 300 mgs. for 2wks. 500 mgs. for 4wks. & 300mgs. for 2wks. I'm kick starting this with 4wks. of dianabol at 30mgs. a day.

This isn't near enough info for anyone to formulate useful advice. Please start a new thread that includes plenty of background info and more details about your cycle plan.

**mgs** · 03-19-2007, 03:20 AM

that is neither my quote or cycle that you have been referring too! there is more than enough info on my cycle posted above. I asked if anyone had completed a cycle similar or the same using anadrol as a kickstart. Was asking how you felt about it if you had experience with it. Gains etc did you manage to keep most of them

**Pirate!** · 03-19-2007, 11:35 AM

My comment was directed toward someone else who posted in your thread seeking advice. That post was deleted. It wasn't directed toward you.

If you had to pick one of those cycles, the first one would be better. People are reluctant to help you because of your attitude.

**mgs** · 03-19-2007, 12:24 PM

Ok my bad sorry about that pirate!! Im starting my cycle on wednesday and am actually thinking about replacing the enanthate with sust and see how that works out for me so ill be looking at...

So....

Weeks 1-4: Anadrol @ 50-100 mg/ED
Weeks: 1-10 Sust 250 @ 500mg EW
Weeks: 12-14 PCT Nolvadex

Have you ever stacked those two before ?

Also do you think two weeks after my last sust shot is agood starting point for the PCT?

**kicka19** · 03-19-2007, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by mgs

Ok my bad sorry about that pirate!! Im starting my cycle on wednesday and am actually thinking about replacing the enanthate with sust and see how that works out for me so ill be looking at...

So....

Weeks 1-4: Anadrol @ 50-100 mg/ED
Weeks: 1-10 Sust 250 @ 500mg EW
Weeks: 12-14 PCT Nolvadex

Have you ever stacked those two before ?

Also do you think two weeks after my last sust shot is agood starting point for the PCT?

looks good, why not throw in an anabolic, tren, EQ, deca, ect...?
test only is a good first cycle, i know u have a oral kick start, but you would only benifit from an anabolic

are you bulking, cutting, recomp? what are your stats, bf?

**mgs** · 03-19-2007, 02:57 PM

thanks kicka, my main goal is to bulk up and keep as much of it as possible. You think sust is a better option for my bulking rather than enanthate?

189lbs
6ft
BF 15%

**BigPapaPump68** · 03-19-2007, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by mgs

thanks kicka, my main goal is to bulk up and keep as much of it as possible. You think sust is a better option for my bulking rather than enanthate?

189lbs
6ft
BF 15%

Their both test, sust just stays in your system for a longer time.

**Pirate!** · 03-19-2007, 05:47 PM

Your doses of gear looks fine, but your pct needs work. In my opinion, your pct should start earlier and run longer when using sustanon. The long esters take months to clear your system. I'd go with Test E, start your pct ten days after your last injection of T, and run pct for 5 weeks.

I don't think you should add another compound on this cycle.

**kicka19** · 03-19-2007, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Pirate!

Your doses of gear looks fine, but your pct needs work. In my opinion, your pct should start earlier and run longer when using sustanon. The long esters take months to clear your system. I'd go with Test E, start your pct ten days after your last injection of T, and run pct for 5 weeks.

I don't think you should add another compound on this cycle.

i think he should drop the anadrol and add a long ester anabolic, anadrol really is to advanced, a mild anabolic like EQ is much better way to go for a begginer

**Pirate!** · 03-19-2007, 07:21 PM

a mild anabolic like EQ is much better way to go for a begginer

I agree. He is deadset on using Drol, though. I won't touch the stuff, personally.

**mgs** · 03-20-2007, 03:26 AM

thanks for the opinions guys. i wont be adding another compound to this cycle just keeping it simple with test and probably 4 weeks of the drol. cheers

**kicka19** · 03-20-2007, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by mgs

thanks for the opinions guys. i wont be adding another compound to this cycle just keeping it simple with test and probably 4 weeks of the drol. cheers

why are you bent on the anadrol? save them for a future cycle, and do this cycle right

**mgs** · 03-20-2007, 11:07 AM

This cycle will be done right! Some people react differently to others when taking the drol, some people love them and some people hate them. The people who hate them often hate them because they get bad sides from it or a general unwell feeling. And as for the people who LOVE it, this is because the gains are second to none and lucky for them can either handle the sides or just dont get them. Until you try you will never know how you react to it, and if used carefully im sure i will never look back!

Ill make sure i keep you up to date with my progress throughout.

**kicka19** · 03-20-2007, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by mgs

This cycle will be done right! Some people react differently to others when taking the drol, some people love them and some people hate them. The people who hate them often hate them because they get bad sides from it or a general unwell feeling. And as for the people who LOVE it, this is because the gains are second to none and lucky for them can either handle the sides or just dont get them. Until you try you will never know how you react to it, and if used carefully im sure i will never look back!

Ill make sure i keep you up to date with my progress throughout.

anadrols sides of liver toxicity will happen to everyone, as for the gains they are very strong in terms of stregth and initial mass but not good for keeping mass. are you training for a powerlifting comp? Go for your cycle and let us know how it works it bout anadrol is to advanced for a begginer and you would have been lasting mass gains with a test/EQ or test/deca cycle, i think few would argue that.

**Tommy_M** · 04-11-2007, 04:17 PM

You are playing with your life..in you age..., Anadrol is strongest steroid and have a lot of side effects...what do you want to achieve?

**mgs** · 04-12-2007, 02:33 AM

<<<<(sarcasim) lol yeh mabe if you dont know what your doin it possibly could be matey....ive been on the drol for three weeks and ive had two check ups, liver is fine, no sides, and im up 30 pounds looking good. Im sure ill be including it in most of my cycles in the future!

**kicka19** · 04-12-2007, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by mgs

<<<<(sarcasim) lol yeh mabe if you dont know what your doin it possibly could be matey....ive been on the drol for three weeks and ive had two check ups, liver is fine, no sides, and im up 30 pounds looking good. Im sure ill be including it in most of my cycles in the future!

30lbs, hhahahahaha

**mgs** · 04-13-2007, 01:57 AM

just weighed this morning.To be exact, since day one, first 100mg drol, first test shot it has been 26 days and im up 25 pounds. whats funny bout that? i think its great.

**Tommy_M** · 04-13-2007, 02:46 AM

Anadrol 50 is unfortunately also the most harmful oral steroid. Its intake can cause many considerable side effects. Since it is 17-alpha alkylated it is very liver-toxic. Most users can expect certain pathological changes in their liver values after approximately few week.

The compound oxymetholone easily converts into estrogen. This causes signs of feminization (e.g. gynecomastia) and water retention which in turn requires the intake of anti estrogens (e.g. Nolvadex and Proviron) and an increased use of diuretics (e.g. Lasix) before a competition. Bodybuilders who experience a severe steroid acne caused by Anadrol 50 can get this problem under control by using the prescription drug Accutane.

Other possible side effects may include headaches, nausea, vomiting, stomach aches, lack of appetite, insomnia, and diarrhea. The athlete can expect a feeling of "general indisposition" with the intake of Anadrol 50 which is completely in contrast to Dianabol which conveys a "sense of well-being". This often creates a paradoxical situation since the athlete continues to become stronger and bulkier while, at the same time, he does not feel well. The increased aggressiveness is caused by the resulting high level of androgen and occurs mostly when large quantities of testosterone are "shot" simultaneously with the Anadrol 50. Anadrol is not a steroid for older athletes since they react more sensitively to possible side effects, and the risk of liver damage and prostate cancer increases. Since the drug is usually taken with a diet rich in calories and fat needed to build up mass, the cholesterol level and the LDL values might increase while the HDL values decrease. The body's own production of testosterone is considerably reduced since Anadrol 50 has an inhibiting effect on the hypothalamus, which in turn completely reduces or stops the release of GnRH (gonadotropin releasing hormone). For this reason the intake of testosterone-stimulating compounds such as HCG and Clomid (see relative characteristics) is absolutely necessary to maintain the hormone production in the testes.

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