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    Question Another Plea for help!

    Ok This Is ME

    1) Age 23
    2) Weight and Percent BodyFat 10-12%, start weight 52kgs in 2001, current weight is 71kgs
    3) Years of Consistant Training experience 3-4on/off with 2 consistant.
    4) Previous Cycle experience, to prevent premature bone plate closure, i did not start supplements till 20 yrs old and cycles till 22.
    LA muscle supplements, good first time, there after no gains
    Mdien- little gained 6-8 pounds a bit of water
    M1t - Great first time round , alot of water but alot of strength too after that nothing.
    ripfast supplements, great for 6 months then nothing gained
    Proviron-dianabol-all water was gained maybe 2-4pounds of muscle in total
    Nandralone and dbol, discontinued as suffered from depression(not cycle related) due to bad news and circumstances- all kool now

    5) Training routine and Diet, gym 4 times a week 1.5 hrs each session.
    10 min x trainer warm up.Legs, back, shoulders, abs- mon/thurs
    10 min treadmill warm up.biceps, triceps, pecs, abs - tues/sat
    1x protien shake in morning, afternoon and b4 bed
    meals include the expected grilled chicken and tuna pasta, jacket potatoes steak, chips,chicken and rice etc.
    I.E more than 1-2 gms protien / pound body weight daily,
    im a bit shitty with my fats and eat lots of carbs but being a hard gainer the carbs help me keep going.

    6) Cycle Goals - as much mass as one can get, all orals seem to be giving me nothing these days just a hole in my wallet and my liver.

    Can anyone suggest the best cycle using the items listed below (i have a supplier for these).


    BD Boldabol 200
    BD Decabol 250
    BD Primobol 100
    BD Testabol Enenthate 250
    BD Testabol Prop 100
    BD Trenabol 75
    BD Trenabol Enenthate 200

    CLP Deca 250
    CLP Masto 150
    CLP NPP 100
    CLP Primo 100
    CLP Primo DS
    CLP Testo Enth 250
    CLP Testo Prop 100
    CLP Tren Ace 100

    Deca Durabolin (NORMA)
    Sustanon 250 (Organon)
    Testosterone Enanthate (New Aburaihan Iran)
    Winstrol Depot (Zambon)

    Androlic 50mg - (Anadrol)
    BD Anavar (Oxanabol)
    BD Dianabol (Methanabol)
    BD Oxydrol (Anadrol)
    BD Primobol 50
    BD Stanabol (Winstrol)
    BD Turanabol
    Danabol DS - Dianabol 10mg

    Clenbuterol
    Cytomel (T3)
    Ephadrine - 25mg

    BD Arimidex
    Clomid - 50mg
    Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)
    Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)
    Proviron - 20 Tabs

    Sorry to send you all to sleep, All help would be greatly appreciated.

    Skinney Kid
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    There is no best cycle, but this an excllent bulking cycle:

    Weeks

    1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 250 mg twice weekly
    1-10 Deca 375 mg (1.5 cc) once weekly
    2-13 HCG 300 iu twice weekly
    14-16 Nolvadex 40 mg/day
    17-18 Nolvadex 20 mg/day
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    Thanks Pirate, You've been great help with all my questions!!
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    gona be pricy going human grade, why not UGL?
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke8395

    But, I've been with girls that had saggy chests and boring butts and they still had no personality. Those girls are usually really bitter. I think they realize they are useless.

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    By UGL do you mean under ground labs,

    Whats the benefits ?. in my limited experience it means the gear you get is not very reliable, or did you mean UG labs the same people who brought us m-1t, mdien, m-5aa etc.. if so i wasnt aware they did injectables, also im not fond of trying vetrenarian/equine products on myself either.. just too many unanswered questions that a horse cannot give me.

    if i am way off the beaten track put me right by all means..

    After all im here to learn, not to tread on people's toes..
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    UGL are under ground labs, most of the time they are simply alot cheaper, i dont see any benifets of human grade for the cost, most big UGLs are very clean and good dosing
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke8395

    But, I've been with girls that had saggy chests and boring butts and they still had no personality. Those girls are usually really bitter. I think they realize they are useless.

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    He's in the UK. I'd go with human grade gear, as well.
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    cheers guys

    Im having a bit of trouble with my gains post cycle, i seem to have lost 4 kg somewhere and my weight is dropping all the time and its not fat im losing. How do i avoid this?
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    Reduce training volume, sleep more, eat better, lower stress, improve all lifestyle factors etc etc. Most will still lose weight and likely some strength.

    Also, use HCG during the cycle to keep your nuts up to size, and do PCT well.
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    Pirate just gave us Gear-101:
    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate!
    Reduce training volume, sleep more, eat better, lower stress, improve all lifestyle factors etc etc. Most will still lose weight and likely some strength.

    Also, use HCG during the cycle to keep your nuts up to size, and do PCT well.

    An excellent bulking cycle:

    Weeks

    1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 250 mg twice weekly
    1-10 Deca 375 mg (1.5 cc) once weekly
    2-13 HCG 300 iu twice weekly
    14-16 Nolvadex 40 mg/day
    17-18 Nolvadex 20 mg/day
    Thanks again ... another page Ctrl-D'd

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