17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

**Back2gym** · 01-15-2008, 08:38 AM

Has anyone used 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

if soo,,, is it good or garbage? Its in a supplement called P-Max

thanks,
B

**workingatit43** · 01-15-2008, 08:58 AM

It is Phera Plex what are your stats?

**Back2gym** · 01-15-2008, 09:10 AM

6'1 240lbs 25yrs old

probably around 20%bf
worked out most my adult life, but took a couple years off serious training.

Is this stuff any good?

B

**Back2gym** · 01-15-2008, 09:22 AM

well if it is phera plex,,, i did a search and it people seemed to get more side effects than gains,,,, so I guess its not good...

thanks,
B

**workingatit43** · 01-15-2008, 09:23 AM

There can be alot of sides with any steriod and that is what it is. Phera Plex can be very harsh

**Back2gym** · 01-15-2008, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by workingatit43

There can be alot of sides with any steriod and that is what it is. Phera Plex can be very harsh

Yup I know.. But was considering Phera Plex cause still on the net for sale(well im sure others are still for sale on the net,,,,just cant find them)..

B

**workingatit43** · 01-15-2008, 09:40 AM

Well here is a whole bunch of them all types of clones

Mass Cycle

**Pirate!** · 01-15-2008, 07:25 PM

Phera Plex is not the best choice of steroid/prohormone for you. Something drier like Havoc/Epistane or a H-Drol. You don't want the blood pressure issues that might come from phera plex at your body fat level.

**soxmuscle** · 01-16-2008, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Pirate!

Phera Plex is not the best choice of steroid/prohormone for you. Something drier like Havoc/Epistane or a H-Drol. You don't want the blood pressure issues that might come from phera plex at your body fat level.

Where, what and how did you study? Your intelligence on this kind of stuff impresses me.

**Pirate!** · 01-16-2008, 05:08 PM

By know means am I an expert on gear use, but I have a strong background in integrative physiology, biochemistry, orangic chem and so on from my work at The University of Texas College of Natural Sciences.

**zombul** · 01-17-2008, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Pirate!

Phera Plex is not the best choice of steroid/prohormone for you. Something drier like Havoc/Epistane or a H-Drol. You don't want the blood pressure issues that might come from phera plex at your body fat level.

Agreed you'll add water wait you probably don't want at 20% body fat.I have cut on ProMagnon if you are looking for a PH to cut on that you can still buy.

**Back2gym** · 01-17-2008, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by zombul

Agreed you'll add water wait you probably don't want at 20% body fat.I have cut on ProMagnon if you are looking for a PH to cut on that you can still buy.

I will look into that
B

**joey0480** · 01-18-2008, 10:36 AM

yeah I haven't been on here long but I have a decent science background...won't get into my job.

you definitely want to be cautious of your BP. What is it currently? Are you on any meds? Trust me, I am at 18% BF right now...I have to lean out. H-drol for me. And i am on meds for BP. That is why I am going with a low side effect PH just to be safe and taking all supplement and PCT precautions.

**Back2gym** · 01-18-2008, 01:21 PM

Not Sure on that but I will get it checked......HDROL Is good for cutting? I may want to try that first.

B

**Pirate!** · 01-18-2008, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Back2gym

HDROL Is good for cutting?
B

If your diet is right, yes. It's pretty low key, but it helps with appetite and muscle retention while dieting for sure.

**mcguin** · 01-24-2008, 08:01 AM

is milk thistle needed while taking h-drol? Also what is a good PCT to take with H-drol? I hear about people stacking other types of supplements while on prohormones? Is this necessary? What are the benefits versus not taking anything other than in this case the H-drol? thanks

**workingatit43** · 01-24-2008, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by mcguin

is milk thistle needed while taking h-drol? Also what is a good PCT to take with H-drol? I hear about people stacking other types of supplements while on prohormones? Is this necessary? What are the benefits versus not taking anything other than in this case the H-drol? thanks

Milk Thistle should be used with any methylated compound period. PCT some peolpe say you can get away with something that has Trans-Resveratrol 50% i am going to use this in my Haldrol cycle in about a month but i also have a bottle of Nolva on hand just in case

**bbattag** · 01-24-2008, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Back2gym

Not Sure on that but I will get it checked......HDROL Is good for cutting? I may want to try that first.

B

Yes, I agree. H-drol is prob the best bet. Gains without the water retention. As long as you take something for your liver (Liv 52, Milk thistle, etc), you should be fine.

**eight732** · 02-12-2009, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by workingatit43

It is Phera Plex what are your stats?

I just purchased this product call Alpha Drol...
It includes 19 Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3,17 dione
17a methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

My stats are 6' 170 lbs with 8.5% BF
Can anyone tell me what this stuff means in lamens terms... I am new to training
Thanks

**Pirate!** · 02-12-2009, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by eight732

Can anyone tell me what this stuff means in lamens terms... I am new to training
Thanks

Basically, you just bought a steroid that has negative sife effects. It will only harm you. These supplements are best used by men with years of lifting experience who have researched how to properly use them. I recommend getting a refund.

**ZECH** · 02-13-2009, 01:17 PM

There have been many cases of havoc/epi and Hdrol causing cases of HBP. Myself included. Just because it is not as harsh as Pplex, it can still case this.

**kicka19** · 02-13-2009, 06:03 PM

make sure you are cutting, bulking at 20%bf is foolish.

**Prince** · 02-13-2009, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by eight732

I just purchased this product call Alpha Drol...
It includes 19 Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3,17 dione
17a methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

My stats are 6' 170 lbs with 8.5% BF
Can anyone tell me what this stuff means in lamens terms... I am new to training
Thanks

and this is why pro-hormones got banned.

**ZECH** · 02-14-2009, 08:40 AM

Yep, you got that right.

**kicka19** · 02-14-2009, 09:25 AM

how the hell does this post have 7,000 views? wtf

**Prince** · 02-14-2009, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by kicka19

how the hell does this post have 7,000 views? wtf

because if you do a Google search for 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol this thread is #1

17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol - Google Search

**eight732** · 02-14-2009, 03:53 PM

well im on my 4th day using alpha drol and already seeing minor changes... Im also eating 6oz chicken and 4oz of rice 5x / day along with 3 protein shakes with my creatine 3x / day. Is this product an anabolic steroid?

**Pirate!** · 02-15-2009, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by eight732

Is this product an anabolic steroid?

Yes. Did you read my post above? Just because something is over-the-counter, doesn't mean it's safe to use. They keep taking these types of products off the market because of people who use them ignorantly.

**quark** · 02-15-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by eight732

I just purchased this product call Alpha Drol...
It includes 19 Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3,17 dione
17a methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

My stats are 6' 170 lbs with 8.5% BF
Can anyone tell me what this stuff means in lamens terms... I am new to training
Thanks

Unless he's had a serious illness recently he's a classic ecto who is sick of being a bean pole. The fact that he's on here asking for help is a good sign. I think sometimes we start the bashing a little too soon. I can't think of any PH or similar product (I could be wrong obviously) that tells you that you need a pct or liver support or anthing other than [paraphrase] 'take these and get all those muscles and gain all that weight you've always wanted' on the bottle. The industry has to be held at least somewhat accountable for that. The consumer has to be responsible for knowing what they're putting into their bodies by doing some research before they start taking something. Sometimes it just seems like some of these products are too easy to get.
OK, I see that from the post dates he started taking the stuff the same day he bought it and continued despite Pirate's advise. Never fucking mind.

**BiggT** · 02-21-2009, 01:59 PM

ya its phera plex/ mass xtreme.

the stuff is legit as fvck. ive ran it 3 times or so and each time my strength went through the roof and i gained at least 20lbs (running it for 2-3 months).

i always stacked it with something like a tren PH or stanzobol PH.

17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol is the best PH ive ever used, and ive used like halo and shit like that.

im actually gonna run it again for my next cycle in a few more months.

gluck

p.s. in case you cant tell, its a bulking agent*

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