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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: a
Posts: 25
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Mixing HCG. Please help me.
About to start a bulking cycle as follows :-
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DRUGS USED : Deca @250mg/ml, Sustanon @250mg/ml, Aromasin @ 25mg/ml, Nolvadex @ 25mg/ml, HCG 1 x 5000iu, Albuterol @ 4mg/ml ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CYCLE DAY 1 : Frontload - 2ml SUS, 1.5ml DECA Then 2 days later:- Weeks 1 - 10 - DECA @ 0.5ml E4Ds = 218mg EW Weeks 1 - 12 - SUS @ 0.5ml EOD = 437mg EW, Aromasin @ 0.4ml ED -> 7.5mg ED Weeks 13 - 15 - Prepare Balls for PCT HCG @ 500iu EOD for 10 shots (I am gyno sensitive so want to use minimum for first time) Up Aromasin to 25mg ED Nolvadex 20mg ED MDIEN 6 x 4mg ED ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PCT Weeks 16 - 19 (4 Weeks) Continue Aromasin @ 25mg ED Up Nolvadex to 50mg ED (First 2 weeks then down to 25mg ED thereafter) Albuterol @ 4mg ED Weeks 20 - 21 (Further 2 weeks) Nolvadex 25mg ED ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would really appreciate anyones help regarding mixing & administering the HCG as I have never used it before. I have researched as much as possible including reading the sticky in this section but wanted to check that I am getting it spot on. Firstly I will be injecting it IM. I do not want to preload any syringes to store in the fridge as my dad might find them so would rather transfer to a vial to put in fridge.Q1. Am I correct in thinking that the 1ml solvent that comes with the HCG only lasts for a few days onced mixed so I could bin it and buy some Bacteriostatic Water instead which would then last about 1 month. Also these come in 30ml so how long will this water last; thinking of using for future cycles. Q2. Is this correct:- 1. Will use a 1ml Syringe with 21G (Green) needle for drawing 2. Break open the 5000iu HCG amp with the powder. 3. Use Syringe/Needle to withdraw 1ml from BW vial 4. Slowly Inj the BW down side of HCG amp with powder in 5. Withdraw the newly mixed HCG into same syringe 6. Inject it into brand new sealed 10ml Vial 7. Withdraw another 1ml of BW & inject into sealed vial. Repeat 3 times so put in 4ml 8. Sealed vial now contains a total of 5ml BW giving 1000iu per ml 9. Shake vial??? Read this but also read that you have to be careful when constructing 10. Withdraw 0.5ml (500iu) from vial then switch needle to 25G (Orange) and inject IM Q3. Are you meant to inject straight from the fridge cold or wait a bit to heat up a liitle bit Q4. Is the Nolvadex necessary to take along with the HCG or is the Aromasin enough? Q5. Is Vitamin E supps necessary whilst taking HCG and if so why? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I understand that you usually use a slin pin and inject Sub Q but would rather use this method if it is correct. Also appreciate any comments/views on cycle, PCT :aaHappy9: |
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FAT JESUS
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Your mixing is correct. Make sure to keep the HCG refrigerated after mixing. DON'T inject IM! HCG should be injected sub Q. There's nothing wrong with shooting straight out of the fridge. Use the nolva for PCT. Vit E question I can't help with.
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Australia
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I always take the amount of HCG that I am goin 2 inject out of the fridge for about 15-20mins just 2 take the bite off it. Easier 2 use a 18g pin to draw.
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Gatekepper
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Texas
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Inject sub-q with slind pin right out of the fridge. Never shake or warm at any point in the process. Peptides are fragile. Vit E is not necessary. There are benefits to taking the nolva with HCG, including possibly limiting leydig cell desensitization to HCG.
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: a
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Yea I think I will try the Sub-Q method then. Still confused what a Slin Pin is exactly (I am from the UK so maybe different name). Is this the same as a Insulin Syringe. Found a picture and looks like the needle is attached to the syringe permanently?
Does this mean that I could just dilutue it with 1ml BW and use the same pin every time using 1/10th of the pin? So it would be like injecting 0.1ml to get 500iu at a time? Also if the needle is permanently attached is this OK to inject it with the same needle. I have loads of 1ml Syringes; could I not just buy a 29g needle and attach it to that and use 0.1ml or is a slin pin alot more accurate? Many thanks ![]() |
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Gatekepper
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 6,173
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Yes, it's just an insulin syringe. I actually use a detachable 25 gauge that is 1/2" long. It doesn't necessarily have to be a tiny insulin syringe. Just shoot it into your belly fat. It's better to dilute it to about 1,000 iu per ml.
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: a
Posts: 25
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Great stuff. I have loads of 25g needles that are 1/2 inch long as I Initially bought these for IM steroid inj ages ago but never used them as I realised that they were not long enough. Finally, a use for them.
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