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**all4show** · 02-15-2008, 02:09 PM

We I am 42 years and I have not done any steriods since the two cycles of D-Bol I did when I was 21 and 22. I just gots some gear and I wanted to hear what others (besided the big guy at my gym) thinks.

Age: 42
WT: 253
HT: 6'1"
Experience: Almost 30 years - some times hard core some times not but always keep coming in.
Body fat: 12% to 15%
Arms: 18.5"
Chest 52"
Bench: 365lbs for 3
Goals: Gain lean muscle and lose fat

I have 10ml of legit T-350 which is a mixture of Cyoionate, Enanthate, Propionate. I also have 10ml of 200mg Equipiose. What would you do for a cycle?

Here is what I thought I would do? (chart form is not working well)

Week Date.... all Test... Equipoise.. Total mg
1 Sat 16...... 0.5...... 0.5........ 275
1 Wed 20..... 0.5....... 0.5...... 275
2 Sat 23.... 0.5..... 0.5...... 275
2 Wed 27.... 0.5.... 0.5.... 275
3 Sat 1...... 0.75.... 0.75... 412.5
3 Wed 5..... 0.75.... 0.75.... 412.5
4 Sat 8...... 1.... 1..... 550
4 Wed 12.... 1...... 1.... 550
5 Sat 15..... 1.... 1... 550
5 Wed 19... 1.... 1... 550
6 Sat 22.... 0.75..... 0.75.... 412.5
6 Wed 26... 0.75..... 0.75.... 412.5
7 Sat 29.... 0.5..... 0.5.... 275
7 2-Apr...... 0.5... 0.5.... 275
............10..... 10
Total

Any Comments

**Pirate!** · 02-15-2008, 07:58 PM

No need to pyramid. Can you get another vial of test? If so,

Weeks:
1-10: 400 mg EQ/wk
1-14: 350-500 mg Test/wk

2-14: 500-700 iu HCG/wk

PCT...

Diet is a huge factor in determining how well you will lean out.

**all4show** · 02-18-2008, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Pirate!

No need to pyramid. Can you get another vial of test? If so,

Weeks:
1-10: 400 mg EQ/wk
1-14: 350-500 mg Test/wk

2-14: 500-700 iu HCG/wk

PCT...

Diet is a huge factor in determining how well you will lean out.

Thanks for the response.

That is about twice as much time and gear that I have. I am going on vacation on Week 8 for a week and a half and I will have no access to continue the cycle, as I will be flying.

Do you have any other suggestion besides HCG?

I would like to ask you more questions about philosophy. For instance how often do you do steroids? I think once cycle like you described once a year would keep me into lifting steady. 14 weeks is a long time. What I would do is work up to the cycle for 8 weeks, cycle for 14 and then the next 8 weeks try to keep it. That is pretty hard training for 30 weeks.

Thoughts?

**Pirate!** · 02-18-2008, 06:13 PM

There are long ester compounds, which are ideally run for longer than 8 weeks, but that's not a big deal. Most gear users cycle more than 8 weeks a year. They are habit forming.

There is no substitute for HCG.

**all4show** · 02-19-2008, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Pirate!

There are long ester compounds, which are ideally run for longer than 8 weeks, but that's not a big deal. Most gear users cycle more than 8 weeks a year. They are habit forming.

There is no substitute for HCG.

Thanks.

I agree about the habit forming, but I wanted to keep it to a minimum. At this point there is a huge placebo effect, to help in training and motivation.

I usually take a spring vaction and the vacation alone is a good motivational factor for me to get in shape. Ideally 14 Weeks starting on the first of the year would have been much better, but I made the decision late due to a shoulder surgery and access to gear.

The reason I asked about minuimums is that I have always been able to maintain good size with out drugs, but my definition is at times lacking. I have been accused 100's of times of been on steroids, I just am not where I would like to be at this point. So once I make that deiscion to use them, it make sense (for me) to use them twice a year, the begining of the year for spring break and then the summer.

**all4show** · 03-06-2008, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Pirate!

There are long ester compounds, which are ideally run for longer than 8 weeks, but that's not a big deal. Most gear users cycle more than 8 weeks a year. They are habit forming.

There is no substitute for HCG.

Pirate,

I bought some Tamox from CEM. 50ml of 20mg Tamox Citrate. What dosage do you recomend?

I had some gyno in one of my nipples from either age or DHEA (can you fucking believe it?) and I am peraniod.

**Pirate!** · 03-06-2008, 05:20 PM

I wouldn't take any nolva during the cycle unless you sense signs of gyno. Normal doses range from ~10-60mg/day.

**all4show** · 03-07-2008, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Pirate!

I wouldn't take any nolva during the cycle unless you sense signs of gyno. Normal doses range from ~10-60mg/day.

Thanks man.

I am just paraniod.

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