Fed up, decided to take Test.

bones33 · 03-18-2008, 04:05 PM

Ok, i'm 21 years old, a male thats about 5'10 and 165lbs. and I think I naturally have low testosterone... I didn't even really have leg hair til i was 19, and still have no hair on arms(minus armpits).. not to sound gay, just trying to give you an idea of my situation...

Anyway, i've been lifting for 2 or 3 years, and seriously for one of them. I've been doing P/RR/S workout, and eating well, but my gains just aren't mounting up... My chest isn't getting much stronger, and my arms are still thing. So after all the hard work, i'm going to do test. I've read up a bit, and still plan to do more research. I've been eating well, high calories, high protein.... and still nothing. Can't break 165lbs. Its almost pathetic, but i just wanted some opinions on if test-e was right for me.. ideally i'm trying to gain about 10-15lbs of good weight... Any input is greatly appreciated.

workingatit43 · 03-18-2008, 04:32 PM

You should go to your doctor and have your test levels if you think you have low test levels that is the only way to make sure

**Pirate!** · 03-18-2008, 08:23 PM

Yep, get it tested before deciding it must be low. Your diet is the key to your gains. I can help you with that.

Are you a Longhorn?

bones33 · 03-18-2008, 08:50 PM

Haha, nah just a fan... um either way if its low or not i wanna take Test... pirate i had an offer for Test E.. its 250.00$ for 20ml... and Test Prop which is 150 for 20ml... are these good prices?

eh92891 · 03-18-2008, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bones33

Haha, nah just a fan... um either way if its low or not i wanna take Test... pirate i had an offer for Test E.. its 250.00$ for 20ml... and Test Prop which is 150 for 20ml... are these good prices?

Thats a good price for the Test E. I paid $155 for 10ml. Is it EQ/Enanthate 500? Or 250? Mine was EQ/Enanthate 500. Supposedly this is a painful injection from what Im told. People are telling me that I'll be too sore to work out! Which doesnt make any sense to me. Why would anyone take it if they couldnt workout??

**dg806** · 03-18-2008, 10:39 PM

Nope not for you. If you can't gain weight by eating, drugs won't help you.

JailHouse · 03-18-2008, 10:48 PM

You should post your diet and work outs in the Online Journals section so other members can critique your program. Your prolly doing some thing wrong if you have no results after 3 years.

**Mudge** · 03-18-2008, 10:53 PM

Drugs coupled with diet will frustrate you if you can't do it naturally.

bones33 · 03-19-2008, 12:51 AM

is it a painful injection?

**Mudge** · 03-20-2008, 06:03 PM

Depends in part on what you get, some brands hurt others not so much. Also depends on the person, and how well you know where to hit.

TrojanMan60563 · 03-20-2008, 10:37 PM

test will help, but its not going to change much if you can't gain weight from eating. You HAVE to gain weight if you eat more then you burn in a day. Some people have to eat more or less depending on their metabolims.

**Gazhole** · 03-21-2008, 06:13 AM

Dont waste your first cycle. If you cant gain weight from eating "high calories" you need to eat MORE. Its as simple as that. Dont define "high" because you think its high, if they really were that high youd be gaining weight.

You're gonna need to eat a hell of a lot on test, like the others said, so you may as well do it naturally. You're nowhere near your genetic potential yet.

TrojanMan60563 · 03-21-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gazhole

You're nowhere near your genetic potential yet.

Well that is up for debate. I think a lot of people that want to get large muscles cannot do it naturally. Some people will never break into the 200's without use of drugs. Well I can see someone lifting for 20 years and eventually over a serious length of time maybe getting there...but other people can do it in no time at all without drugs. Maybe this guy is just intended to be small?

MB14 · 03-22-2008, 10:29 PM

10-15lbs is not hard to do naturally.
eat! then make sure your getting enough rest.
have you tried changing up your routine?
but if u insist on using steroids-
test-e at 500mg per week for 10 weeks will do.
(you could also frontload during the 1st week at 1000mgs)
PCT starts 2 weeks after last injection. nolva/clomid

03-18-2008, 04:05 PM	#1
bones33 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 173	Fed up, decided to take Test. Ok, i'm 21 years old, a male thats about 5'10 and 165lbs. and I think I naturally have low testosterone... I didn't even really have leg hair til i was 19, and still have no hair on arms(minus armpits).. not to sound gay, just trying to give you an idea of my situation... Anyway, i've been lifting for 2 or 3 years, and seriously for one of them. I've been doing P/RR/S workout, and eating well, but my gains just aren't mounting up... My chest isn't getting much stronger, and my arms are still thing. So after all the hard work, i'm going to do test. I've read up a bit, and still plan to do more research. I've been eating well, high calories, high protein.... and still nothing. Can't break 165lbs. Its almost pathetic, but i just wanted some opinions on if test-e was right for me.. ideally i'm trying to gain about 10-15lbs of good weight... Any input is greatly appreciated.

03-18-2008, 08:23 PM	#3
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 6,173	Yep, get it tested before deciding it must be low. Your diet is the key to your gains. I can help you with that. Are you a Longhorn? My 1-Andro RX Journal

03-18-2008, 10:39 PM	#6
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	Nope not for you. If you can't gain weight by eating, drugs won't help you. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

03-18-2008, 10:48 PM	#7
JailHouse Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,600 Photos: 3	You should post your diet and work outs in the Online Journals section so other members can critique your program. Your prolly doing some thing wrong if you have no results after 3 years. Jailhouse Journal

03-18-2008, 10:53 PM	#8
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Drugs coupled with diet will frustrate you if you can't do it naturally. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

03-18-2008, 04:32 PM	#2
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	You should go to your doctor and have your test levels if you think you have low test levels that is the only way to make sure

03-18-2008, 08:50 PM	#4
bones33 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 173	Haha, nah just a fan... um either way if its low or not i wanna take Test... pirate i had an offer for Test E.. its 250.00$ for 20ml... and Test Prop which is 150 for 20ml... are these good prices?

03-19-2008, 12:51 AM	#9
bones33 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 173	is it a painful injection?

03-20-2008, 06:03 PM	#10
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Depends in part on what you get, some brands hurt others not so much. Also depends on the person, and how well you know where to hit. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

03-20-2008, 10:37 PM	#11
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,393 Photos: 1	test will help, but its not going to change much if you can't gain weight from eating. You HAVE to gain weight if you eat more then you burn in a day. Some people have to eat more or less depending on their metabolims.

03-21-2008, 06:13 AM	#12
Gazhole iwillmakeyousmelltheglove Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 8,003 Photos: 19	Dont waste your first cycle. If you cant gain weight from eating "high calories" you need to eat MORE. Its as simple as that. Dont define "high" because you think its high, if they really were that high youd be gaining weight. You're gonna need to eat a hell of a lot on test, like the others said, so you may as well do it naturally. You're nowhere near your genetic potential yet. http://sdatrainingprograms.blogspot.com - Updated 13/11/09 ***READ THIS FOR TRAINING INFO:*** http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/99879-articles-ironmagazineforums-members.html If you want to win the fight, say "I BELIEVE".

03-22-2008, 10:29 PM	#14
MB14 Future Mod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: US Posts: 8	10-15lbs is not hard to do naturally. eat! then make sure your getting enough rest. have you tried changing up your routine? but if u insist on using steroids- test-e at 500mg per week for 10 weeks will do. (you could also frontload during the 1st week at 1000mgs) PCT starts 2 weeks after last injection. nolva/clomid everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody wants to lift no heavy ass weights- Ronnie C -Pain is weakness leaving the body...

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