snoops

Below is my proposed first cycle. I think its pretty straight forward; simple test prop cycle with pct afterwards. Id like any reactions on the amounts and length of time on cycle. Ive been working out for years now and have always had a good clean diet, and would like to bulk on this cycle and gain a substantial amount of weight that I will be able to keep. Im 21 and have been working out for 6 years and would like to increase my gains because they have been getting harder and harder to make. Im 5'9", 175.

test prop: 100mg eod x 8 weeks

nolva: 40/40/20/20

Like I said, Im trying to keep it as simple as possible for my first cycle.

Pirate!

More food, and a 5th week of nolva.

Ron Paul

snoops

what should the dosage on the 5th week be?

primo1

no need for 5th week, add clomid for the for weeks on nolva

Pirate!

20 mg.

Clomid sucks for me, but to each their own.

Ron Paul

primo1

so what do you use to get ur nuts goin again? the nolva wont do it! pregnyl?
ya gotta have somethin to get ur natural test goin again

dg806

Says who?? Works as good or better than clomid without the nasty sides .
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/an...imulation.html (Clomid, Nolvadex and Testosterone Stimulation)

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jchappj

Pirate's help & advice has always been spot on for me. Personally I'd go with the Nolva. What about an AI while on this cycle Pirate?

You are in charge of the research and development, production, and marketing of the product known as you. You have a responisibility to yourself... take charge!

snoops

yeah, while were on it, how about an AI like the above post, or anything else I should consider during or after?

snoops

also, I just saw that Pirate posted this:

Some are used on cycle and during pct.

1. Nolvadex(tamoxifen) A+ for blocking gyno. B- for PCT
2. Clomid A- for boosting LH during PCT. F for sides
3. Toremifene A+ for PCT in all regards
4. Raloxifene C+ for restoring LH levels during PCT. B+ for blocking gyno.

5.Aromasin(exemstane) Best AI (duing and PCT)
6.Letro (Men should only take this as a last resort) Sides Suck!
7.Anastrozole(arimidex) (Cheap and effective AI best used in small doses.

There is generally little use in using an AI after the gear has cleared your system.


should I go for toremifene instead of the nolva if I can get it?

dg806

Most will tell you that you won't need an AI for test prop. Alot of guys use it on a cut. But each person is different. Have one in case you need it.
For gyno-nolva can't be beat. If you get bloat, then maybe an AI. But remember, some water is good for you.

"So as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take our freedom away, I want to say those words again for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, Mr. Gore. From my cold dead hands!"




"I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead."
Nov. 5, 1994 - Ronald Reagan