Thread: TBOL, Testosterone Heptylate, Trenbolone Heptylate

Looks fine to me. Have you run tren prior?

Originally Posted by largepkg

Looks fine to me. Have you run tren prior?

yes, i ran tren acetate in a previous cycle and i didnt experience any sides. Im just not sure if im doing the right thing running this type of tren or just stick with the test and tbol. reason being i am looking for lean gains and expect to run a prop tren cycle early in the new year for cutting. im told it will help with gains mixed with the test.

Apparently this test is a long ester and should be pinned only every 5-7 days..

Yea, heptylate has a half life of about 20 days so I see no problem with 5-7 intervals.

The reason why I ask about the tren experience is when I ran it I did some tendon damage to my elbow. At the time I was really focused on strength gains which it did well but at the cost of injury. Since you have experience on how your body handles it, it's your call to run it.

Originally Posted by largepkg

Yea, heptylate has a half life of about 20 days so I see no problem with 5-7 intervals.

The reason why I ask about the tren experience is when I ran it I did some tendon damage to my elbow. At the time I was really focused on strength gains which it did well but at the cost of injury. Since you have experience on how your body handles it, it's your call to run it.

bro, you're not alone. A good friend of mine severely injured his shoulder to the point he has restricted motion on his left arm and has to adapt specific routines. He blames the tren and in fact told me as recent as saturday I sould drop it and just run the test and tbol, prob give me the gains i needed anyway. I just heard that tren shapes your body nicely too.

I didnt get any reactions from tren acetate, i did it on my third cycle with prop and i got jacked on it. Then again i wasnt after the strength gains which i really am seeking now. At 37 years old i dont think i got many years in this left so want to mazimize what i can now.

this tren ester with a 20 day half life would worry me. Can you get tren ace? I simply would not want tren building up to high conncectrations and not being able to have it decay out fast if do sides occur. Seems like an unneccessary risk.

Originally Posted by kicka19

this tren ester with a 20 day half life would worry me. Can you get tren ace? I simply would not want tren building up to high conncectrations and not being able to have it decay out fast if do sides occur. Seems like an unneccessary risk.

I can get both Acetate and Enathate. I just have this stuff on hand and heard good things about it. I might cut it short in the cycle after week 6 depnding on sides etc. I def value your opinion about teh extended half life, but its pretty common for guys here to run a long ester tren like enathate, for an entire cycle. The pct will be crazy, its why im probably doing a full 4 weeks pct.

I wouldn't want to run a tren that long. It could be a loooong PCT. Test and Tbol is great for size. Don't be afraid to run the tbol longer if your bloodwork looks fine. I'd run the test atleast 16 weeks.

Originally Posted by Pirate!

I wouldn't want to run a tren that long. It could be a loooong PCT. Test and Tbol is great for size. Don't be afraid to run the tbol longer if your bloodwork looks fine. I'd run the test atleast 16 weeks.

Thanks Buddy, do you suggest just dropping the tren altogether and just running test and tbol on their own. I had others suggest it, while the tren preachers tell me to run tren with it..thanks in advance.

Started pinning on Monday...

test heptyate 600 mg week 1-14
trenbolone enathate 400 mg week 1-7
Tbol 50mg ED weeks 1-6
HCG 500 iu E5D
PCT
Nolva weeks 17-21
Chlomid weeks 17-20

Starting stats

Weight 210 lbs on the dot
Arms R- 17 L - 16.75
Quads R-24 L-24
Waist 34
Chest (relaxed) 46



Supplements:
NOxplode cycled 8-2-6-1-8-2
BEta Force
CellMass Creatine
Animal Stack - Multivitamin
Mutant Mass Protein - Chocolate flavour
BCAA - Branch Channel Amino Acids
Sportlab Glutamine
Progressive Vegegreens - Green supplemnt, because i just cant eat like a cow.

Real food is the key, every 2-3 hours 6-7 ounce serving of chicken, beef, or fish ( talapia, salmon, tuna) with roasted or bowled vegetables. Oatmeal with peanut butter for breakie, and of course 6-8 litres of water.

I think i might be overloading it on supplements, is it worth taking cellmass, noxplode and beta force gven im on proper gear?

I dropped the cellmass and Beta force... way too much water retntion, up 11 pounds in 10 days i think thats overboard.

Diet has been consistant, in this order

protein shake ( bulk)
oatmeal. peanut butter, egg whites home made protein bar
chicken breast, steamed vegetables, white potatoes a little low fat may
fish serving with sweet potatoe
for dinner, meat with a little potatoes or small portion of white bread, one glass of wine
protein shake before bed

IM BLOATED !! weird too because tbol and test H are not suippose to bloat me, i might as well have ran the dbols..

on the good side.. STRENGTH !!!

3 plates (45s on each side) on incline press and hit 3 plates on deadlifts for 4 sets of 8 clean proper non cheated reps.

Strentgh is through the roof brothers!! This is my third "bulker" if you wanna call it that and I am having better results with 50mg of Tbol a day then i did running 35 mg of dbol. I feel stronger, more vascular and my only complaint is the water retention and bloat i seem to get from eating every 2 hours.

Had my right nipple flare up so I am taking 20 mg a day of nolvadex until the weekend when i get some arimidex and i will run that at .5mg a day instead.

While i look puffy, i have gained size in arms, traps and def the chest.

Gonna follow along. Good luck with your cycle.

Entering week 4, gains are excellent. I hit the scale at 226. Mind you I have a lot of bloat from cellmass and I still feeling lots of water retention, but strentgh has broken all plateaus. I really love the pump on Test H, I heard about it and starting experiencing it significantly last week. Incline dumbell presses had my chest pounding and i can feel every muscle fibre expanding as I pounded my way through my sets. Its like you never want to leave the gym till you are completley annihilated.

Sides I exeperienced so far, I have a flare up on the right nipple that subdued once i ran Nolva at 20 mg a day for a week then ran the Arimidex at .5 a day. It seems under control. I seem to have a pain in the chest that apparently isnt unusual when using tren. I been sleeping well since i started pinning in the mornings and taking some nyquil, had a slight cold as well.

Very happy with the results thus far.

keep up with the log bro
can you give me some info on test h and how it differs from test e or c (im a newb)
thanks btw did a search couldnt find good detailed info