My second Cycle at 41

**onlyworkhard** · 10-02-2008, 07:42 AM

Hi,
first of all sorry for my english...i'm Italian..surely i'll make many mistakes..
This is the first time i've registered myself to a forum, i'm 41 years old, training weights since i was 21, always natural untill last year in october i did my first cycle.
It was a Deca/Test/Dianabol for 6 weeks, i went from 174 lbs (11% bodyfat) to 185 (15% bodyfat) now 182lbs back on 11% bodyfat.
I'm going to start my second cycle in few days and i've been told to do an 8 week as follows:
Deca (Norma) 200 x week 1-2 + 7-8
400 x week 3-4-5-6
Testo (Cypionato) 500 x week 2 to 5
last 3 weeks Winstrol 50 mg eod
End of Cycle Clomid and HCG 5000

Can i have your opinions?
I'm very concerned of the post therapyâ€¦ on the first cycle i had a big down of my sex drive and having my little broâ€™ up was really a pain..
It took 3 months to recover and honestly I must confess Iâ€™m still not back as I was before.

Iâ€™m not so experienced, any suggestion, consideration will be really welcome.

Ciao.

**musclepump** · 10-05-2008, 05:45 PM

Is juice legal in Italy?

**Built** · 10-05-2008, 05:51 PM

Maybe you ought to lay off the deca. Why not just run test for this one, see how you feel?

**Cardinal** · 10-05-2008, 10:03 PM

Agreed, I think it might could be simplified a little. You know, learn the effects of one compound alone (using the testosterone alone).

**onlyworkhard** · 10-06-2008, 06:55 AM

Thanks all,

in Italy is not legal but there are thousands of people on it..
I've been told that testo only will result in very few results considering the dose i'm going to use.
Adding Deca is to make the cycle working...
I don't know, you're saying then that my..let's call them "problems" depends on the Deca?
I have read many articles saying that Testo is much more suppressive than Deca...is this not true?
Thanks again.

**Built** · 10-06-2008, 09:59 AM

Ever heard of "deca dick"? That's why.

Try just test, and get your training and diet really nailed. What do you plan for your cycle, regarding training and diet. What calories will you run and what is your split?

**quark** · 10-06-2008, 12:38 PM

As Built is getting at, your diet & training will decide most all of your gains. 500ew test will give your outstanding gains. You might consider a 10 week cycle instead of 8. Also (for a 10 week cycle) consider hcg at 600iu ew weeks 2-12 instead of all on pct.

**ZECH** · 10-06-2008, 01:12 PM

Why run almost the same cycle? I would just run the test by itself and see how that does for you.

**onlyworkhard** · 10-07-2008, 08:55 AM

..yes, i hear of "deca dick"..so that's the point.
Will consider only Test for this cycle then, thanks for your replies.
My plan on this cycle is to gain at the end 5 pounds lean, my daily calories intake on the cycle's diet is 3120, normally 2640.
My split is:
day1: Pect, Schoulders, abs, cardio
day2; Legs
day3: off
day4: Back, arms
day5: every week change, one of the above 3 + cardio.
day6: off
day7: off

Is this good?

**Built** · 10-07-2008, 09:24 AM

What exercises, what weights used...?

**kicka19** · 10-08-2008, 04:06 PM

deca for 6 weeks is foolish IMO, if your going for bulk save the winny, if your trying to put on size go for somethen like

test E 1-12 500mg
deca 1-11 400mg
pct starting around week 13 or 14 and do 60-40-20-20 nolva

decent starter cycle for a bulk

**powerrack** · 10-12-2008, 07:21 PM

Test and deca is not a bad cycle, but considering your circumstances, your age, and also the experience you had last time with your sex drive dropping low, I would just do test only, you will also recover better off of test only cycles, deca hits you hard in the recovery department.

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