Trying out some M Drol

**smaggy** · 10-04-2008, 06:19 PM

This will be my first cycle. I've decide to go with M Drol, after quite a bit of research and study. I know, of course, that being methylated, is going to effect the liver a bit more, but I'm willing to take the risk due to inavalibility of injectables. My starting stats and cycle are as follows:
Years of PL Training: 3ish. I say ish, because my job interferes with year round training.
Age: 26
Weight: 175 cut to 165 to compete
Height: 68"
(lifts are RAW)
SQ: 325 with wraps, probably 315 w/o
BP: 237 touch & go, 215 competition pause
DL: 415

pre-load: liv-support, milk thistle, and CoQ10, Multi vit
cycle: 10/20/20/maybe another 20, depending on sides
red yeast rice, CoQ10, Niacin, Multi vit
PCT: Tamox: 50/50/25/25, liv-support, milk thistle, red yeast rice CoQ10, Niacin, Multi vit
I plan on an increased caloric factor. Using a weight gainer to aid in between meals.
My goals are to increase lean body mass( some fat gain is alright with me), and put some more weight on the bar.
I plan on starting cycle, Oct 19th.
I'll keep training and cycle updates posted.
Constructive critisism is welcome. Thanks guys.

**Pirate!** · 10-04-2008, 07:38 PM

Looks like a solid plan to me. You might want a stimulant or pre-workout cocktail in case of lethargy.

**kicka19** · 10-04-2008, 11:47 PM

BP is pretty low for your weight and hieght

**smaggy** · 10-05-2008, 01:39 AM

I'll keep that in mind, when I start the cycle. Hopefully, this being my first go at it, lethargy won't play too much of a factor, but we'll see. I know my bench needs some work. It's obviously my weakest link, but by RAW standards, I'm still a class II competitor. Hoping to break 1000 total, and possibly bump up to class I. I could sit here and b/s you, but what's the point in that. btw, if there's a 300+ 165 RAW bencher out there that's not competing in a fed, he's f'ing crazy. #'s don't mean shit w/o 3 whites. Sorry if I ranted a bit.

**workingatit43** · 10-05-2008, 08:02 AM

IMO I would start with a less harsh compound for a 1st cycle.

**smaggy** · 10-05-2008, 12:12 PM

Yeah, I thought about it for quite a while. I was back and forth with H or M drol. I've already got all my stuff ready to go. Like I said, if I'm susceptibe to the sides, I'll cut it off at 3 weeks. Hopefully it won't be a problem.

**ZECH** · 10-06-2008, 01:34 PM

If you are going to run it, use cycle support.......
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support

**kicka19** · 10-08-2008, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by smaggy

I'll keep that in mind, when I start the cycle. Hopefully, this being my first go at it, lethargy won't play too much of a factor, but we'll see. I know my bench needs some work. It's obviously my weakest link, but by RAW standards, I'm still a class II competitor. Hoping to break 1000 total, and possibly bump up to class I. I could sit here and b/s you, but what's the point in that. btw, if there's a 300+ 165 RAW bencher out there that's not competing in a fed, he's f'ing crazy. #'s don't mean shit w/o 3 whites. Sorry if I ranted a bit.

not to brag buuuuuut. 185lb and 390bp, hahah, had to brag

**smaggy** · 10-08-2008, 07:14 PM

Nice. What's your total, and what fed do compete in? Or are you the BB type?

**kicka19** · 10-08-2008, 11:28 PM

check your PM

**workingatit43** · 10-09-2008, 08:52 PM

May want some taurine for possible pumps. IMO I would not run Nolva that high 40/40/20/20. Good luck bro.

**smaggy** · 10-09-2008, 10:53 PM

Yea, I have some taurine on order. I figured back pumps might be a concern, since my lower back/spinal erectors get pretty tight on heavy DL days. I alternate DL/SQ every other week. I was kind of basing my nolva dosing off of reading that the implied dose of the research chem product, being lower than it actually is. Maybe I'm f'd up. I'd hate to screw up my PCT and have this first run be a waste.

**smaggy** · 10-12-2008, 11:52 PM

Started pre-loading today. I'm getting pretty amped about going on cycle next week. I just hope to get some bang for my buck.

**workingatit43** · 10-13-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by smaggy

Started pre-loading today. I'm getting pretty amped about going on cycle next week. I just hope to get some bang for my buck.

Good luck bro.

**zombul** · 10-13-2008, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by smaggy

Started pre-loading today. I'm getting pretty amped about going on cycle next week. I just hope to get some bang for my buck.

I think you'll really like MDrol. Good luck .

**steelhorse** · 10-13-2008, 01:30 PM

lets us know what your results are

**smaggy** · 10-13-2008, 04:05 PM

Thanks for the good words fellas. I'll definitely be posting results along with dosing and PCT. Probably not much diet info, because I don't have micronutrients really dialed in. I'll just be trying to meet a high calorie demand for gains.
Today was ME Bench: 155x5, 175x4, 195x3, 205x2, 240x1(PR!), 250x0
Bent Rows: 115+end of bar(135ish) x22, x20
Tricep extensions: 80x14, x12
Arnold Press: 40x10, x7
Hanging Pikes: 18, 6 abs just failed me on 2nd set

My training goes like this: Mon: ME bench, Tues: ME SQ, Thur: DE bench assistance, Fri: DE SQ assistance. Every other week swap DL for SQ. Every 2 weeks assistance movements change, but ME stays the same. This will carry me out to Jan, then my job will once again take me away from traing for 4 or so months.

**smaggy** · 10-14-2008, 03:14 PM

Tues:ME SQ: 225x5, 250x4, 275x3, 295x2, 315x1
Pull throughs: 140 cable (will use B&G bands next time due to inadequate loading) x25, x25
Romanian Split Squats: 70x12, x12
Ham Curls: 60x17, x13

**smaggy** · 10-20-2008, 01:04 PM

day 2 so far 10mg ED. Started yesterday finally. Had a PR on the bench @250 for a single. Also bumped up warm up weights by 10 lbs each. Increased all weights and reps on assistance work. Probably some placebo effect going on, but not sure. I know I felt good in the gym. I hope this shit does it's job.

**smaggy** · 10-21-2008, 04:45 PM

day 3 10 mg. DL day! I pulled 385, my current gym PR, so pretty happy with that. I missed 375 2 weeks ago. The dreaded back pump wasn't too bad, but only day 3. I really want to bump up to 20 already, but I'll probably wait a bit. Maybe Friday or Saturday. So far so good.

**workingatit43** · 10-21-2008, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by smaggy

day 3 10 mg. DL day! I pulled 385, my current gym PR, so pretty happy with that. I missed 375 2 weeks ago. The dreaded back pump wasn't too bad, but only day 3. I really want to bump up to 20 already, but I'll probably wait a bit. Maybe Friday or Saturday. So far so good.

Wait at least 1 full week before bumping it up. More is not always better.

**smaggy** · 10-22-2008, 01:19 PM

Eh, I guess I'll wait. Today is an off day for training. I think maybe next week, my training partner and I discussed adding a "just arms" day for the hell of it in Wednesday. We'll see how that goes.

**workingatit43** · 10-22-2008, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by smaggy

Eh, I guess I'll wait. Today is an off day for training. I think maybe next week, my training partner and I discussed adding a "just arms" day for the hell of it in Wednesday. We'll see how that goes.

Good luck bro.

**smaggy** · 10-23-2008, 07:57 PM

Upper body assistance today. I felt real good in the gym. The pumps are fairly intense, but I am taking taurine at 2 g's a day, so I assume that is helping. I guess the pumps could be worse without it. I'm horny as a bull, but the lethargy is definitely noticeable. I've had to nap almost everyday in the afternoon. I'm looking forward to next week's ME bench and squat.

**smaggy** · 10-24-2008, 11:17 AM

Another decent day in the gym. But damn! I thought everybody was just being bitches about the lethargy. I guess I was wrong. I haven't been this tired in a good while. It kind of sucks. My appetite isn't quite up to par either. I just hope the pay off is worth it.

**zombul** · 10-24-2008, 01:07 PM

Hope you get to see alot of PR's and yeah the pumps and lethargy can be a bitch!!!!!

**smaggy** · 10-27-2008, 01:37 PM

OK, what the fuck. I'm a bit discouraged. I mean, last week everything went up in the gym. 1RM's and volume work, significantly. This week, day one, failed at 260 on the bench, after nailing 250 last week. Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit, but I was pissed. I haven't really gained any weight either. I've been eating a lot. bkfst: bagel w/cream cheese, eggs, milk; shake or snack; lunch: meat, veggy, bread; shake or snack; dinner same as lunch; protein shake before bed. Afternoon shake/post workout shake is weight gainer 500 cal. Again, maybe I'm getting a little anxious. Any words of wisdom?

**MCx2** · 10-27-2008, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by smaggy

OK, what the fuck. I'm a bit discouraged. I mean, last week everything went up in the gym. 1RM's and volume work, significantly. This week, day one, failed at 260 on the bench, after nailing 250 last week. Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit, but I was pissed. I haven't really gained any weight either. I've been eating a lot. bkfst: bagel w/cream cheese, eggs, milk; shake or snack; lunch: meat, veggy, bread; shake or snack; dinner same as lunch; protein shake before bed. Afternoon shake/post workout shake is weight gainer 500 cal. Again, maybe I'm getting a little anxious. Any words of wisdom?

How many days are you into it? I was kinda shocked you were seeing results at just a few days to be honest.

**smaggy** · 10-27-2008, 03:13 PM

This is day 8. I started last Sunday at 10mg ED, and started 20mg ED yesterday. I was surprised also. Maybe a little placebo effect going on, not real sure. This is my first time trying anything methylated. I've never even tried a PH. From what I understand, the 2nd and 3rd weeks are the best, but only on a 3 week cycle? Maybe I'm expecting too much. It just seems that Mdrol works pretty well, based on other user's anectodal evidence.

**workingatit43** · 10-27-2008, 04:56 PM

M-drol kicks in a little faster than some of the others.

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