Thread: Cycle guidance for contest prep

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Do you have some pics you could posts?

tren over deca IMO for bulking anyday

I would never touch deca, but that's just me. Tren is the stuff of the Gods, but I wouldn't run it any longer than 6 weeks, 8 tops.

It sounds like you're kind of unexperienced for doing a bb show, is this just something you're going to do for fun?

Why not deca Texan? Isn't that the classic bulk: test, deca, dbol? Why only six weeks of tren- sides?

Thanks for the replies, I will address the questions as best possible.

Pics, I will get them online shortly.
More detailed stats:
5' 9" currently about 195, everybody says I am pretty lean. Been running test cyp 500/wk twice a week pokes, dbol 50mg daily 3 in am 2 in pm. Dbol is going to run out next week (end of week 3 or so)

I am really only doing this for fun, I am 38 year old, been working out for many years over 10. Only done test/dbol before. I met with one of the people that runs the show and he said I should try to get down to 154, I thought that was too lean. I figure if I can bulk as much as possible until Jan 1st (goal is about 210) I could then cut down to 176 middle weight max weight.

I have never used anything other than test/dbol before, nor have I ever cut down that low bf for a show... naturally I can cut down to the 170s and be pretty ripped, 4 pack.

I appreciate the information thus far. I finally have a decent supplier and jsut really wanted to know what would be safe to run. I didn't pickup my deca yet, I was going to get it this week or early next. I could go tren if you think it's smart, but sounds like running that for 16 weeks isn't a good idea.

I will get some more detailed measurements later today, arms, legs, chest etc. Thanks.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

I would never touch deca, but that's just me. Tren is the stuff of the Gods, but I wouldn't run it any longer than 6 weeks, 8 tops.

It sounds like you're kind of unexperienced for doing a bb show, is this just something you're going to do for fun?

Originally Posted by jchappj

Why not deca Texan? Isn't that the classic bulk: test, deca, dbol? Why only six weeks of tren- sides?

I have talked to a lot of guys who weren't happy with it. Excessive bloat, deca dick etc...I'd rather have keepable gains than blow up on deca and lose 80% of it off cycle.

Tren is like EQ, but better-although it comes with harsher sides. That's why I say 6 weeks.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

I have talked to a lot of guys who weren't happy with it. Excessive bloat, deca dick etc...I'd rather have keepable gains than blow up on deca and lose 80% of it off cycle.

Tren is like EQ, but better-although it comes with harsher sides. That's why I say 6 weeks.

Tren and EQ are nothing alike, EQ is arguably the weakest steroid i have ever used while tren is by far the best. Nothing alike IMO

If it's a natural show, why are you using gear?

It's not natural.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

I have talked to a lot of guys who weren't happy with it. Excessive bloat, deca dick etc...I'd rather have keepable gains than blow up on deca and lose 80% of it off cycle.

Tren is like EQ, but better-although it comes with harsher sides. That's why I say 6 weeks.

This is interesting. What would your recommendation be for the cycle you describe (keepable gains). Also, what would your pct contain for that? Thanks for your input.

Let's try to keep in mind, with deca I will get a lot of water weight.. which is fine, but once Jan gets here I will change my cycle to something that will help me harden and cut (hopefully.) I thought clen/tren/gh/eq was going to part of the cutting phase. I expect the cutting phase to last about 12 weeks.. Jan 1 to end of Mar

bump... had some good feedback yesterday. nothing definative though.

Originally Posted by urbanimal

Let's try to keep in mind, with deca I will get a lot of water weight.. which is fine, but once Jan gets here I will change my cycle to something that will help me harden and cut (hopefully.) I thought clen/tren/gh/eq was going to part of the cutting phase. I expect the cutting phase to last about 12 weeks.. Jan 1 to end of Mar

I'll be honest, that is A LOT of drugs for someone who is 195lbs and 15% body fat. You'd also be running test with that. I think you need to do A LOT more research. These are not drugs you take for fun to do a local bb show your friend said you should do. I've seen guys who are a lean 250lbs running smaller cycles than that. Are you aware how clen can affect your heart?

Tex,
Thanks for the feedback. At this point, I haven't done anything beyond dbol and test. I would like to think that as lean as I am not, I won't need to do too much on my cutting cycle.
I am sure you know everybody has their own opinion on things and I just wanted some feedback from people outside of my own circles.

One of the things I have found with this forum is that people end up getting no real answers. Only, you shouldn't do this or shouldn't do that. Which is sort of where this ended up. I am going to add some deca to existing cycle... seems like the least amount of risk and it's been used for years with test.

Originally Posted by urbanimal

One of the things I have found with this forum is that people end up getting no real answers. Only, you shouldn't do this or shouldn't do that. Which is sort of where this ended up. I am going to add some deca to existing cycle... seems like the least amount of risk and it's been used for years with test.

There's a good reason for that though. If someone just draws up a sample cycle for you, there's no need for you to do research and you've learned nothing. At least people here are willing to point you in the right direction. They care enough to make sure you don't make a mistake and do serious harm to yourself which is more than most.

Originally Posted by urbanimal

Tex,
Thanks for the feedback. At this point, I haven't done anything beyond dbol and test. I would like to think that as lean as I am not, I won't need to do too much on my cutting cycle.
I am sure you know everybody has their own opinion on things and I just wanted some feedback from people outside of my own circles.

One of the things I have found with this forum is that people end up getting no real answers. Only, you shouldn't do this or shouldn't do that. Which is sort of where this ended up. I am going to add some deca to existing cycle... seems like the least amount of risk and it's been used for years with test.

I would not use deca, but that's just me. There's no reason you need any more drugs, especially given your stats.

thanks for the information Texand and Reproman.

Unlike some, I am not coming here to just say give me this or give me that... I already spent some time and effort researching. I personally feel the doses I am taking aren't ridiculous by any stretch.

As for my stats, it's really subjective. I am not a large frame person. In my life, the largest I have ever hit, naturally was 200... and as soon as I dropped the calories, the weight went right back down.

I suppose it's also tough for people to understand if they have never gone to a show or participated in one. Again thanks for the information.