Mags

Alright guys, I had some blood tests done a week a go and I went to get the results to day.

I also got my Blood Pressure tested.

Everything in the test concerning iron, red blood count, liver values, hormones, thyroid function, LH & FSH etc (I won't go into too much depth as the doctor didn't elaborate, just said they were all fine) were all good.

However, he said my urea levels were slightly raised. When I explained that I consume 300g of protein a day and take Creatine, he said that explained it. He said there was no damage to my kidneys and there's nothing to be concerned about - he even said it was okay to keep taking creatine. He just said to ensure I stay hydrated.

He said my glucose fasting was low too. This is where it goes even hazier for me to understand. He said one reading was quite high which usually indicated a problem with my body not handling sugar very well - similar to what is seen in people who develop diabetes. He then said that wasn't an issue as the other reading was significantly lower than the national average. Overall, he said this was also nothing to worry about, but would carry out another set of blood tests in a month to see if they're any trends emerging etc.

So, in December I have to go back and have my urea levels tested (apparently the Potassium/Sodium levels were spot on, establishing the kidneys are working fine, regardless of the slightly higher urea levels) and my glucose fasting. I think the latter of the two tests were previously affected by me having my breakfast an hour beforehand when I think I was supposed to miss it.

Lastly: my Blood Pressure. The first time it was slightly high. Today, it was lower. He explained the raised BP, initially, was because a) I was late to the appointment and been going at a brisk jog about 15 mins beforehand, and b) the fact that I was a little stressed/nervous about going to the doctor about my specific issue.

Again, he said the level where BP can become a concern is 140/90. He said mine today was 136/60. I don't know what that means. I explained I don't drink, smoke, do recreational drugs and am not overweight/have a cleanish diet. He said it's nothing to worry about, but worth checking again in a month or so.

Lastly, I was supposed to start an Hdrol cycle today. 100mg ED for 8 weeks. Now, without sounding like an impatient jackass, is it worth still going ahead? I know it can raise BP (and I've taken all cycle precautions for BP, liver, prostate etc) and liver values. But everything seems good to go other than the BP.

Is it worth using this next blood test to keep an eye on how I'm getting on with the cycle (as technically, it'll be halfway through come the start of December) and tell the Dr that I'm on it, so if anything has changed he'll know what has caused it and presume that things will (hopefully) settle back to normal afterwards. Or will that be the idiotic thing to do? Will it be better to see how the next results come back next month and depending on them, start the cycle later or in the new year? Again, other than my BP (which he said wasn't too bad), everything else seems in good shape to go.

Please tell me what you guys think. If I'm being a moron by gambling with a cycle now, fine. However, if you think it's okay to start the cycle, that's cool, too. Obviously, I wanna get cracking on the cycle, but not if it's gonna mess me over.

Apologies I haven't been able to give you any more info regarding facts and figures.

Cheers.

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TrojanMan60563

If your pressure goes up too high just stop taking it.

dg806

Usually 5 weeks is the longest cycle. 8 weeks is pushing it, even for mild hdrol. What type of support supps are you taking?

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Mags

A knowledgeable chap on this board recommended 8 weeks and at double the dose - particularly as I did M1T before about two years ago. Having said that, I'm not slamming your advice - it's always welcome and has proven extremely helpful in the past.

The supps. I plan to run on cycle will be:

Vitamin C
Pantothenic Acid
Glucosmine Sulphate
Cod Liver Oil
(I take the above all year anyway)
Hawthorn Berry
Saw Palmetto
Milk Thistle
NAC


Cheers.

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Mags

Also, what do you mean by 'pushing it'? As in effectiveness of the Hdrol, how it could affect my BP, or the taxing of my body in general?

Cheers.

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dg806

Taxing the body...........as far as prostate issues, high bp and bad blood lipids. But Hdrol is one of the mildest out, but just keep a close eye on everything If you do it 8 weeks. 8 weeks of a methyl is a long time.

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Pirate!

Your Hemoglobin A1C was elevated. This shows a tendancy for frequently elevated blood glucose levels.

Your blood pressure is high. I recommend you self-monitor a few times a day for a week or so and get an average. BP various considerably. The average will tell the real story.

I recommended H-Drol for 8 weeks. Your lipids will likely take a hit, but I think you'll get much better results. As TM said, just go off cycle if there's a problem. The key is awareness.

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Mags

What will happen to my lipids when on cycle then? And what's the best way to get them back to normal?

I'm not sure how my glucose was elevated as my carb sources are mostly all higher GI types: Meal 1) oats, Meal 2) pasta, Meal 3) oats, Meal 5) potatoes/rice/pasta (depending on the day). The only thing I can think of that may boost my glucose levels is I have a teaspoon of sugar with my tea. And I can drink anywhere between 6-10 cups a day (although the higher end tends to be on the weekends etc for some reason). I also drink about 500ml of Pure OJ (from concentrate) during or after training as advised. Lastly, I eat 2 x apples a day and a handful of grapes to boost my fruit portions per day, but I eat those after my oats in meal 3. I'll, therefore, cut the amount of tea I consume each day (lowering suger and caffiene intake - the caffiene may have a role in my higher BP) and stop drinking OJ. Hopefully this may lower them somewhat.

I had read, also, that it may simply be the amount of carbs consumed that can cause elevated glucose blood levels, regardless of whether they're higher GI carbs or not. As I'm on a high calorie diet, could this possibly be the reason rather than the processed/simple sugars currently in my diet?

As for my 'prehypertension' BP, is there anything I can do to tackle that? I'm gonna cut back on the tea, so reducing caffiene (and stop taking my caffiene-based fat burner/stimulator altogether) may help. As far as diet and exercise is concerned, though, I play football Monday nights, and lift Tues to Sat with Sunday off. So I think I'm active enough. And as I said before, my diet is high in cals, but clean enough (I think) and at 6 ft and currently 211lbs (with 33 inch waist and visable abs and obliques), I don't think I'm overweight - especially compared to cases that have obesity in mind. I'm currently looking into my salt consumption, but everything I've checked so far comes up with 'trace' amounts. And my Potassium/Sodium tests showed they were all alright - not too much, not too little.

Apologies if this has turned into a diet-based rant rather than an anabolic topic. If need be, just let me know and I'll copy and paste it into the diet forum.

Cheers.

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Pirate!

Don't pass judgement concerning your BP based on one reading. It may not be as big of an issue as it now seems.

Urea is always high in body builders. More muscle = more protein turnover.

Elevated HA1C doesn't mean you've made poor dietary choices. It suggests some tolerance to insulin. The ideal thing is to spread your carb intake throughout the day. If you're going to eat 700 g of carbs, you'd want to get that in about 8 feedings. Do you have the actual numbers from your labs?

Concerning lipids, I think a good diet is the most important thing you can do, but your HDL will likely still bottom out. Red yeast rice and a few other supplements may help some on cycle, and should help more post cycle.

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